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OT: Romar adds big man (allegedly)

dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,840
Apparently Jeff Goodman works for ESPN now, and he's reporting that former 4 star center Robert Upshaw is leaving Fresneck (LOL!) for UW.

Of course, the last time a 4 star big man was reported as transferring to UW, he ended up at iHateOregon, so LIPOAA.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    Good get if it is true. He didn't have a great freshman season at Fresno State, but it wasn't horrible. It's about time we got a decent big guy.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Disagree about Suggs, he was always terrible. I was pissed when Turner transferred while Suggs stayed put. I think you're overrating IT's contributions quite a bit, at least when it comes to how he helped the wings. Terrence Ross was significantly better after IT left. Not because IT left, just because he developed and had real talent, whereas Suggs never developed the little talent he had.

    Agreed the 4 spot is the biggest issue, but I'm sure Desmond Simmons will finally show us why he's a Spado First Rounder any season now.

    This season will rise and fall on how good NWG really is and whether Andrews is Jordan Polk or Jaydon Mickens.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Seems like we will have enough actual bigs to where we can stick JJ in at the 3 and can be a huge mismatch. He can guard the 3 or the 4 too with how tall he is and that wingspan.

    I am hoping he turns into a taller Justin Holiday type of player.

    I think Romar's team is looking better but it is much different now that we have to compete with Kentucky West. Oregon should be one of the better teams again. UCLA obviously doesn't care about bball anymore with their hire.

    Romar is really banking on NWG being as advertised. He relies on floor generals for him to win anything. Until he can crack a elite 8 (which I don't see happening soon) he is just the Tedford of UW bball.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Seems like we will have enough actual bigs to where we can stick JJ in at the 3 and can be a huge mismatch. He can guard the 3 or the 4 too with how tall he is and that wingspan.

    I am hoping he turns into a taller Justin Holiday type of player.

    I think Romar's team is looking better but it is much different now that we have to compete with Kentucky West. Oregon should be one of the better teams again. UCLA obviously doesn't care about bball anymore with their hire.

    Romar is really banking on NWG being as advertised. He relies on floor generals for him to win anything. Until he can crack a elite 8 (which I don't see happening soon) he is just the Tedford of UW bball.
    I think he's a cross between Tedford and Lambright.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,239 Founders Club
    The season is over
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until our season ends against oregon

    Pressing guys
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    brchco12 said:

    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until our season ends against oregon

    Pressing guys

    The season is over

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    brchco12 said:

    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until March, when the season is already over

    Pressing guys

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until March, when the season is already over

    Pressing guys

    If we can't report on our offseason 7 foot 19 year old stocking adventures on this bored then I am out!

  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    brchco12 said:

    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until our season ends against oregon

    Pressing guys

    The season is over

    Race miscalculated chris Petersen's ineptitude, the season doesn't end until Arizona, follow the new script.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    brchco12 said:

    dnc said:

    brchco12 said:

    Yeah, what the fuck, we're not supposed to talk bball until our season ends against oregon

    Pressing guys

    The season is over

    Race miscalculated chris Petersen's ineptitude, the season doesn't end until Arizona, follow the new script.
    Actually, there are 5 reasons why the season ends Saturday.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    dnc said:

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Disagree about Suggs, he was always terrible. I was pissed when Turner transferred while Suggs stayed put. I think you're overrating IT's contributions quite a bit, at least when it comes to how he helped the wings. Terrence Ross was significantly better after IT left. Not because IT left, just because he developed and had real talent, whereas Suggs never developed the little talent he had.

    Agreed the 4 spot is the biggest issue, but I'm sure Desmond Simmons will finally show us why he's a Spado First Rounder any season now.

    This season will rise and fall on how good NWG really is and whether Andrews is Jordan Polk or Jaydon Mickens.
    The difference is Ross had the talent to do so, which you stated in your post. With IT, MBA, and Holiday gone, he became the #1 option. Suggs was much better (especially efficiency wise) with IT than without. He wasn't terrible, he was a role player who can do one thing which is shoot. When he tried to expand his game, he wasn't even a very good spot up shooter anymore.

    I like Andrews, but he was pretty bad last year. He shot 30 something percent and wasn't a great creator either. As maddening as Gaddy was, he was better than Andrews last year.

    I agree about NWG. I am excited about him, but am going to LIPO.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    Fucking bye weeks screw everything up
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    dnc said:

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Seems like we will have enough actual bigs to where we can stick JJ in at the 3 and can be a huge mismatch. He can guard the 3 or the 4 too with how tall he is and that wingspan.

    I am hoping he turns into a taller Justin Holiday type of player.

    I think Romar's team is looking better but it is much different now that we have to compete with Kentucky West. Oregon should be one of the better teams again. UCLA obviously doesn't care about bball anymore with their hire.

    Romar is really banking on NWG being as advertised. He relies on floor generals for him to win anything. Until he can crack a elite 8 (which I don't see happening soon) he is just the Tedford of UW bball.
    I think he's a cross between Tedford and Lambright.
    Romar

    dnc said:

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Disagree about Suggs, he was always terrible. I was pissed when Turner transferred while Suggs stayed put. I think you're overrating IT's contributions quite a bit, at least when it comes to how he helped the wings. Terrence Ross was significantly better after IT left. Not because IT left, just because he developed and had real talent, whereas Suggs never developed the little talent he had.

    Agreed the 4 spot is the biggest issue, but I'm sure Desmond Simmons will finally show us why he's a Spado First Rounder any season now.

    This season will rise and fall on how good NWG really is and whether Andrews is Jordan Polk or Jaydon Mickens.
    The difference is Ross had the talent to do so, which you stated in your post. With IT, MBA, and Holiday gone, he became the #1 option. Suggs was much better (especially efficiency wise) with IT than without. He wasn't terrible, he was a role player who can do one thing which is shoot. When he tried to expand his game, he wasn't even a very good spot up shooter anymore.

    I like Andrews, but he was pretty bad last year. He shot 30 something percent and wasn't a great creator either. As maddening as Gaddy was, he was better than Andrews last year.

    I agree about NWG. I am excited about him, but am going to LIPO.
    The reason I take Andrews over Gaddy is because he doesn't play scared.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    dnc said:

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Seems like we will have enough actual bigs to where we can stick JJ in at the 3 and can be a huge mismatch. He can guard the 3 or the 4 too with how tall he is and that wingspan.

    I am hoping he turns into a taller Justin Holiday type of player.

    I think Romar's team is looking better but it is much different now that we have to compete with Kentucky West. Oregon should be one of the better teams again. UCLA obviously doesn't care about bball anymore with their hire.

    Romar is really banking on NWG being as advertised. He relies on floor generals for him to win anything. Until he can crack a elite 8 (which I don't see happening soon) he is just the Tedford of UW bball.
    I think he's a cross between Tedford and Lambright.
    Romar

    dnc said:

    Romar finally has a stable of bigs. Now whether they are any good or not remains to be seen.

    For awhile it felt like we had Aziz and the rest of the team was filled with 6'2-6'6 wings.

    While the wings weren't great, I think the real problems were at PG and the 4. Suggs looked a lot better when he had IT. When he tried to do more than be a spot up shooter, he wasn't good. To a lesser extent, the same is true for Wilcox.

    Jarreau has some potential, but the 4 spot was brutal for UW last year. Not having anyone who was a reliable scorer down low hurt as well. The team just wasn't very good last year. Andrews was okay for a freshman, but he wasn't nearly as good as Beach led everyone to believe. His numbers were pretty bad.

    Disagree about Suggs, he was always terrible. I was pissed when Turner transferred while Suggs stayed put. I think you're overrating IT's contributions quite a bit, at least when it comes to how he helped the wings. Terrence Ross was significantly better after IT left. Not because IT left, just because he developed and had real talent, whereas Suggs never developed the little talent he had.

    Agreed the 4 spot is the biggest issue, but I'm sure Desmond Simmons will finally show us why he's a Spado First Rounder any season now.

    This season will rise and fall on how good NWG really is and whether Andrews is Jordan Polk or Jaydon Mickens.
    The difference is Ross had the talent to do so, which you stated in your post. With IT, MBA, and Holiday gone, he became the #1 option. Suggs was much better (especially efficiency wise) with IT than without. He wasn't terrible, he was a role player who can do one thing which is shoot. When he tried to expand his game, he wasn't even a very good spot up shooter anymore.

    I like Andrews, but he was pretty bad last year. He shot 30 something percent and wasn't a great creator either. As maddening as Gaddy was, he was better than Andrews last year.

    I agree about NWG. I am excited about him, but am going to LIPO.
    The reason I take Andrews over Gaddy is because he doesn't play scared.
    I think Andrews has a much better career than Gaddy. Gaddy was a better player last year, though.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Take it to the basketball recruiting bored.
  • IT really helped MBA with the pick and rolls. Before IT became a great passer, MBA was basically useless.

    I think NGW is the real deal at PG and Romar does have a ton of bigs now including a proven big transfer from SF. The Huskies will be on bubble for the NCAA tournament this year.

    Wilcox will benefit a lot more from a real PG. Plus the addition by subtraction of Gaddy should help too.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840

    IT really helped MBA with the pick and rolls. Before IT became a great passer, MBA was basically useless.

    I think NGW is the real deal at PG and Romar does have a ton of bigs now including a proven big transfer from SF. The Huskies will be on bubble for the NCAA tournament this year.

    Wilcox will benefit a lot more from a real PG. Plus the addition by subtraction of Gaddy should help too.

    The potential is certainly there, but there's a lot of ifs. IF NWG is really ready (I think he is), IF Blackwell is the real deal, IF Kemp is ready to make the leap, etc. You can squint hard enough and see a team that makes the top half of the tourney bracket. But it's pretty simple to imagine them not being much improved over last season. I think Romar has to make the tourney this year or he'll really start to feel some heat.

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited September 2013
    This is a decent get to replace N'daiye, hopefully he can be better. I still have questions about having a big time scorer. Until NWG proves he can create his own shot there is still no one on this team that can. Wilcox is a pure shooter who can't do much else. Kemp has some decent post moves but he cannot play defense to save his life.
    Andrews has a nice upside, I actually think he can be an all conference type player with some maturity. The team has some pieces but I'll buy improvement when I see it. This is probably a fringe NCAA team.
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    Let me guess, another big man with "great" hands and "solid" fundamentals.
  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    I just want to know who is going to stop Giles Dierxxx
  • Kim is already setting it up for when he changed his mind to go to Oregon.

    "This shows he's a thug and Romar doesn't want thugs on his team"

    *even though Romar's last good teams had the biggest thug there is in Overton.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,335 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2013
    He's not "leaving Fresno", they kicked him off the team. Apparently Romar still cares about winning, which is nice.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,516

    I just want to know who is going to stop Giles Dierxxx

    The world is not prepared for Gilllles Diercksxxxks
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Giles Diercksxskssxxs will be the next Joe Wolfinger.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    45.9% free throw percentage last year.

    Dude is PERFECT for Romar's system.

    Bump.