As the Dustin Ackley era continues to sputter in Seattle, a change of scenery may be in order
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I don't think Ackley has any trade value at all. Maybe a team thinks they can plug him in at 2B, but I think that ship has sailed.HFNY said:Larry Stone is putting a fork in Ackley. His confidence seems shattered and maybe we can get a talented but struggling catcher in return (Sucre/Zunino just can't hit and John Hicks needs more time in AAA). Nothing will happen until Austin Jackson comes back though:
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Good chance that Ackley will go the way of Justin Smoak ...
One of the biggest problems that the Mariners organization has is that they are way too in love with their own players ... when a prior trade could have been made to salvage at least some value out of Smoak or even Ackley, the Mariners hung on until the bitter end and were left holding nothing ...
But then again, how is Jack Z a bad GM? Howard Lincoln a bad (lead) owner? Chuck Armstrong a bad President? Abundance. -
You mean like Adam Jones?Tequilla said:Good chance that Ackley will go the way of Justin Smoak ...
One of the biggest problems that the Mariners organization has is that they are way too in love with their own players
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Adam Jones isn't in the same ballpark ... that was Lincoln/Armstrong being FS and putting Bavasi in a position where he needed to make decisions for his personal interest above those of the organization ...
If we've learned anything around these parts over the last 5-7 years ... it's that when you know it's time to move on you move on. It's far better to be a year too early than a year too late. -
Yeah, they probably should've traded Ackley after 2014 and gotten a better back-up catcher than Sucre rather than waiting until know (I like Sucre's D though).Tequilla said:
Good chance that Ackley will go the way of Justin Smoak ...
One of the biggest problems that the Mariners organization has is that they are way too in love with their own players ... when a prior trade could have been made to salvage at least some value out of Smoak or even Ackley, the Mariners hung on until the bitter end and were left holding nothing ...
But then again, how is Jack Z a bad GM? Howard Lincoln a bad (lead) owner? Chuck Armstrong a bad President? Abundance. -
Lambo.Tequilla said:Adam Jones isn't in the same ballpark ... that was Lincoln/Armstrong being FS and putting Bavasi in a position where he needed to make decisions for his personal interest above those of the organization ...
If we've learned anything around these parts over the last 20 years ... it's that when you know it's time to move on you move on. It's far better to be a year too early than a year too late. -
There's no real problem having Sucre on the roster when you know he's going to catch no more than 30 games ...
The problem is rushing Zunino to the bigs before his bat was fully developed and being stuck at playing him 120-130 games per year while he struggles against quality major league pitching.
That being said, Dan Wilson was even more hopeless as a hitter early in his career before developing into an above average hitter at the position for more than a few years. So there's still hope for Zunino ... the power is definitely not questioned. -
Tequilla said:
Adam Jones isn't in the same ballpark ... that was Lincoln/Armstrong being FS and putting Bavasi in a position where he needed to make decisions for his personal interest above those of the organization ...
If we've learned anything around these parts over the last 5-7 years ... it's that when you know it's time to move on you move on. It's far better to be a year too early than a year too late.
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I see your point but 30 games is still a lot to start a back-up who simply can't hit. Also to your point about rushing Zunino to the bigs, what if he goes through a bad slump and needs more time off? Or if he gets dinged up and needs to go on the 15 day DL?
I am a big fan of Zunino's potential but am concerned about having to rely on Sucre a lot more than anyone would like. Our depth in the organization isn't very good, especially with John Hicks struggling this year at AAA and Steve Baron needing more time at AA before moving up.Tequilla said:There's no real problem having Sucre on the roster when you know he's going to catch no more than 30 games ...
The problem is rushing Zunino to the bigs before his bat was fully developed and being stuck at playing him 120-130 games per year while he struggles against quality major league pitching.
That being said, Dan Wilson was even more hopeless as a hitter early in his career before developing into an above average hitter at the position for more than a few years. So there's still hope for Zunino ... the power is definitely not questioned.
