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RoadDawg55
RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
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I've been periodically watching. Bullets were up 20. The Hawks out in their bench. Now it's a 3 point game.

Whitman gonna Whitman.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Whitman sucks but Budenholzer might be worse.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Bud's a very good coach.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.

    Christ. Bud's been a head coach for two seasons. Winning 60 with the Hawks was impressive.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    RoadDawg55 said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.

    Christ. Bud's been a head coach for two seasons. Winning 60 regular season gameswith the Hawks was meaningless.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    allpurpleallgold said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.

    Christ. Bud's been a head coach for two seasons. Winning 60 regular season gameswith the Hawks was meaningless.
    Calling him overrated because he's down 2-1 in the 2nd round is FS. If Bud had a long career of failing in the playoffs I would agree, but he's in his 2nd year. I guess Steve Kerr sucks too.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Steve Kerr is in the west playing the Memphis Grizzlies. "Bud" is playing the Wizards. Minus John Wall.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Steve Kerr is in the west playing the Memphis Grizzlies. "Bud" is playing the Wizards. Minus John Wall.

    Kerr also has a way better roster with a top 5 player.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    It's like nobody ever heard of George Karl
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,270
    I called game
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RoadDawg55 said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.

    Christ. Bud's been a head coach for two seasons. Winning 60 with the Hawks was impressive.
    Winning 60 in the East is NEVER impressive.

    HTH
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Not sure what you're doing there. Because he won a bunch of regular season games? His team is underperforming in the playoffs. Whitman's teams over perform.

    Christ. Bud's been a head coach for two seasons. Winning 60 with the Hawks was impressive.
    Winning 60 in the East is NEVER impressive.

    HTH
    Winning 81 in the east would not be impressive.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited May 2015
    allpurpleallgold said:

    Steve Kerr is in the west playing the Memphis Grizzlies. "Bud" is playing the Wizards. Minus John Wall.

    You mean the ball hog aka John Wall who doesn't play a lick of Defense.

    Man, you slurp up shoe commercial idols like it's the nectar.

    When in reality it's called ball movement + better D= addition by subtraction.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    salemcoog said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Steve Kerr is in the west playing the Memphis Grizzlies. "Bud" is playing the Wizards. Minus John Wall.

    You mean the ball hog aka John Wall who doesn't play a lick of Defense.

    Man, you slurp up shoe commercial idols like it's the nectar.

    When in reality it's called ball movement + better D= addition by subtraction.
    I always wondered what Cowherd's handle here was. Now I know.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    salemcoog said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Steve Kerr is in the west playing the Memphis Grizzlies. "Bud" is playing the Wizards. Minus John Wall.

    You mean the ball hog aka John Wall who doesn't play a lick of Defense.

    Man, you slurp up shoe commercial idols like it's the nectar.

    When in reality it's called ball movement + better D= addition by subtraction.
    el oh el

    http://www.bulletsforever.com/2014/12/8/7355039/john-wall-best-defender-point-guard-nba-league-washington-wizards
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    I have no idea how good of a defender Wall is, but most defensive statistics are shit.

    James Harden was one of the bet defenders earlier this year according to stats. I would assume that is because he's always guarding the weakest perimeter threat.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Defensive metrics are flawed, for sure. But it's a pretty far jump from doesn't play any defense to best point guard defender by the metrics. I've literally never heard any serious NBA writer say that about Wall. Washington finished 5th in defensive effiency this year and that's actually a good stat. That is a miracle since Wall plays no defense and always guards the other teams point guard.

    Even Harden tried on defense this year. You couldn't say he didn't play a lick of it.

    Without looking into it at all, I'd guess Harden stacks up well because of his free throws. It's much easier to play defense off of free throws when you can set your defense than off normal offense. The stats back that up. Add a high steal number and you've cracked defensive metrics.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,615 Standard Supporter
    Bump

    Hawks 74-73 with three minutes left

    But why does the NBA suck?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    Bump

    Hawks 74-73 with three minutes left

    But why does the NBA suck?

    It's been ugly, but the 4th has been entertaining.
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,270
    I should have gone to WSU. Because the God damn Wizards and Capitals sure know how to Coug it.




    Just kidding, I have no business at WSU. I have all my teeth and am not a fucking moron
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  • NeedleInTheSky88
    NeedleInTheSky88 Member Posts: 96
    Hawks have to be one of the most overrated #1 seeds in NBA history. Hawks are at full strength and are struggling against the Wizards who have basically been playing without their all-star PG the entire series.

    As much as I don't like Cleveland, they should handle the Hawks rather easily.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    NeedleInTheSky88 said:

    Hawks have to be one of the most overrated #1 seeds in NBA history. Hawks are at full strength and are struggling against the Wizards who have basically been playing without their all-star PG the entire series.

    As much as I don't like Cleveland, they should handle the Hawks rather easily.

    image
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I want the Hawks so when my Cavs win I can tell RoadDawg55 I was right
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    RaceBannon said:

    I want the Hawks so when my Cavs win I can tell RoadDawg55 I was right

    I kind of jumped off the Hawks bandwagon in March. They still might make the Finals in the drecky East.

    Golden State has it in the bag.
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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Nice pic Sven but.... the 94-95 Sonics were 6 W's ahead of everyone else in the NBA and also had an SRS of 8.68 which was way ahead of everyone else and even the #2 Knicks at 6.48.

    Atlanta had the best W/L and SRS in the East but had the 4th best SRS overall.

    Rather than the most overrated the 94-95 Sonics probably were the biggest choke...perhaps in NBA history.

    And stop being a dingleberry about SRS. It adjusts for point differential and SOS and is a pure measure at how good teams are. Its much more important to football given the much shorter schedule.

    Interestingly, there is a parallel to the Sonics in the 90s and Oregon football recently. Both registered extremely strong SRS ratings over more than a few seasons but could never win the ultimate prize.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    Nice pic Sven but.... the 94-95 Sonics were 6 W's ahead of everyone else in the NBA and also had an SRS of 8.68 which was way ahead of everyone else and even the #2 Knicks at 6.48.

    Atlanta had the best W/L and SRS in the East but had the 4th best SRS overall.

    Rather than the most overrated the 94-95 Sonics probably were the biggest choke...perhaps in NBA history.

    And stop being a dingleberry about SRS. It adjusts for point differential and SOS and is a pure measure at how good teams are. Its much more important to football given the much shorter schedule.

    Interestingly, there is a parallel to the Sonics in the 90s and Oregon football recently. Both registered extremely strong SRS ratings over more than a few seasons but could never win the ultimate prize.

    I think you just proved my poont.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    My Hawks just get it done.
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    Nice pic Sven but.... the 94-95 Sonics were 6 W's ahead of everyone else in the NBA and also had an SRS of 8.68 which was way ahead of everyone else and even the #2 Knicks at 6.48.

    Atlanta had the best W/L and SRS in the East but had the 4th best SRS overall.

    Rather than the most overrated the 94-95 Sonics probably were the biggest choke...perhaps in NBA history.

    And stop being a dingleberry about SRS. It adjusts for point differential and SOS and is a pure measure at how good teams are. Its much more important to football given the much shorter schedule.

    Interestingly, there is a parallel to the Sonics in the 90s and Oregon football recently. Both registered extremely strong SRS ratings over more than a few seasons but could never win the ultimate prize.

    You really are the "stats superiority guy". I thought is was all bullshit.
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