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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Deserves a REAL podcast.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The TCU model very well may be the path that UW takes ... struggle without QB play for 2 years, question whether the coach knows what he is doing, talent and depth gets built up while eventually the QB play catches itself up ...

    The 2nd half of the year will be better than the first half ... first half could be ugly
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    I thought we were supposed to make big strides in year two of Petersen? Something about 15 18 20 games being the barometer?

    This year is going to suck and I will probably lose my shit and want Petersen fired if he wins 4 games, but he's working with a stacked deck. The youth excuse is beyond played out, but this team has very few talented returning starters.

    Hopefully Peterman wins 7 or 8 and we can actually have a little bit of substance to doog about other than "Petersen was great at Boise State, the recruiting classes are insane, Socha is getting the boys ready", and all the other doog bullshit we have said or heard every offseason the past 15 years.

    Outside of QB, I honestly don't see much difference in the remaining roster between teams like Arizona or ASU. Just right now UW is getting really poor QB play, bottom 2 or 3 in the pac12.

    The second UW gets simply average p12 QB play I think they'll look to be on par with the Arizona schools and build from there. And long term I don't think either of Arizona schools are recruiting the lines on UWs level.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    edited May 2015
    I think there is enough talent, if the player development we think we'll see out of Pete is true, to get to a shit tier bowl. I'm not expecting to contend for the north, but would be pretty fucking disappointed if we just fell flat on our faces.

    I think last year he had enough wiggle room to blow Stanford, Zona, and OSU and be ok. Year 2 those kinds of winnable games need to be finished or the season will really spiral out of control.
  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    we could go 0-12 this year and id still think Petersen is the right man for our team
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,161
    edited May 2015
    Lundy Ragnarquist is gonna win us the Pac

    You heard it here first
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    Lundy Rangarquist is gonna win us the Pac

    You heard it here first

    This season is basically ragnarok come to Husky Stadium. Not even Odin himself could help us.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732

    I thought we were supposed to make big strides in year two of Petersen? Something about 15 18 20 games being the barometer?

    This year is going to suck and I will probably lose my shit and want Petersen fired if he wins 4 games, but he's working with a stacked deck. The youth excuse is beyond played out, but this team has very few talented returning starters.

    Hopefully Peterman wins 7 or 8 and we can actually have a little bit of substance to doog about other than "Petersen was great at Boise State, the recruiting classes are insane, Socha is getting the boys ready", and all the other doog bullshit we have said or heard every offseason the past 15 years.

    Outside of QB, I honestly don't see much difference in the remaining roster between teams like Arizona or ASU. Just right now UW is getting really poor QB play, bottom 2 or 3 in the pac12.

    The second UW gets simply average p12 QB play I think they'll look to be on par with the Arizona schools and build from there. And long term I don't think either of Arizona schools are recruiting the lines on UWs level.
    I have no idea about stats or anything like that but theres no way there was a qb worse than cyler miles. This years qb may prove that things can actually be worse of course
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    edited May 2015
    phineas said:

    I thought we were supposed to make big strides in year two of Petersen? Something about 15 18 20 games being the barometer?

    This year is going to suck and I will probably lose my shit and want Petersen fired if he wins 4 games, but he's working with a stacked deck. The youth excuse is beyond played out, but this team has very few talented returning starters.

    Hopefully Peterman wins 7 or 8 and we can actually have a little bit of substance to doog about other than "Petersen was great at Boise State, the recruiting classes are insane, Socha is getting the boys ready", and all the other doog bullshit we have said or heard every offseason the past 15 years.

    Outside of QB, I honestly don't see much difference in the remaining roster between teams like Arizona or ASU. Just right now UW is getting really poor QB play, bottom 2 or 3 in the pac12.

    The second UW gets simply average p12 QB play I think they'll look to be on par with the Arizona schools and build from there. And long term I don't think either of Arizona schools are recruiting the lines on UWs level.
    I have no idea about stats or anything like that but theres no way there was a qb worse than cyler miles. This years qb may prove that things can actually be worse of course
    An important stat often overlooked that shows how inept Miles was is yards per completion or attempt. I could have a killer QBR if i just immediately shovel passed it to a RB, but my team would still suck.

    A good QB can make reads and throws that stretch the field and open up the lanes for the RB to do damage at the second level.

    I don't know if there is a stat that documents this, but being able to track a QBs ability to throw for first downs/ or there 3rd down conversion rate as a passer (including scrambling for a first) would be a nice passing statistic and give credit to the smart QBs who move chains.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    It's year 2. I need to see something. Not sure what I'm looking for but I'll know it when I see it.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited May 2015
    Doogles said:

    phineas said:

    I thought we were supposed to make big strides in year two of Petersen? Something about 15 18 20 games being the barometer?

    This year is going to suck and I will probably lose my shit and want Petersen fired if he wins 4 games, but he's working with a stacked deck. The youth excuse is beyond played out, but this team has very few talented returning starters.

    Hopefully Peterman wins 7 or 8 and we can actually have a little bit of substance to doog about other than "Petersen was great at Boise State, the recruiting classes are insane, Socha is getting the boys ready", and all the other doog bullshit we have said or heard every offseason the past 15 years.

    Outside of QB, I honestly don't see much difference in the remaining roster between teams like Arizona or ASU. Just right now UW is getting really poor QB play, bottom 2 or 3 in the pac12.

    The second UW gets simply average p12 QB play I think they'll look to be on par with the Arizona schools and build from there. And long term I don't think either of Arizona schools are recruiting the lines on UWs level.
    I have no idea about stats or anything like that but theres no way there was a qb worse than cyler miles. This years qb may prove that things can actually be worse of course
    An important stat often overlooked that shows how inept Miles was is yards per completion or attempt. I could have a killer QBR if i just immediately shovel passed it to a RB, but my team would still suck.

    A good QB can make reads and throws that stretch the field and open up the lanes for the RB to do damage at the second level.

    I don't know if there is a stat that documents this, but being able to track a QBs ability to throw for first downs/ or there 3rd down conversion rate as a passer (including scrambling for a first) would be a nice passing statistic and give credit to the smart QBs who move chains.
    Total QBR factors that in and Miles QBR was absolutely terrible.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,280 Founders Club

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    every tire a defective Sark recruit
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited May 2015

    If the Pac-12 is the dreckfest most of us proclaim it to be, then good coaching should wrangle up 7-8 wins, even from a talent-deficient team.

    Pac12 football isn't a deckfest (basketball is dreck as fuck). Outside of SEC there isn't a more competitive conference top to bottom.

    Pre-emptive: Eat a dick Sven, you too Race. Miserable fucks.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    But how is Woodward a bad AD wHo was Pool Boi to a faggy President that gets it when it comes to football?
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    If the Pac-12 is the dreckfest most of us proclaim it to be, then good coaching should wrangle up 7-8 wins, even from a talent-deficient team.

    How do you think we've been able to be an average Pac team the last few years?

    Dreckfest.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    This thread delivers
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    If the Pac-12 is the dreckfest most of us proclaim it to be, then good coaching should wrangle up 7-8 wins, even from a talent-deficient team.

    Pac12 football isn't a deckfest (basketball is dreck as fuck). Outside of SEC there isn't a more competitive conference top to bottom.

    Pre-emptive: Eat a dick Sven, you too Race. Miserable fucks.
    Hi. The conference was Oregon and 11 dwarves last year. Of course the 11 dwarves could compete with each other.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    If the Pac-12 is the dreckfest most of us proclaim it to be, then good coaching should wrangle up 7-8 wins, even from a talent-deficient team.

    Pac12 football isn't a deckfest (basketball is dreck as fuck). Outside of SEC there isn't a more competitive conference top to bottom.

    Pre-emptive: Eat a dick Sven, you too Race. Miserable fucks.
    Hi. The conference was Oregon tallest midget and 11 dwarves last year. Of course the 11 dwarves could compete with each other.
    FTFY
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    Meek said:

    how is it you guys still aren't acclimated to being a lower/middle team with no identity yet? Christ, it's been 15 years; get with the program.

    Tire fires can last longer than 15 years. We'll put it out the year after next
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

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    I almost asked