Nigel goss

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

In all reality, I do wonder if NWG gets the burn he expects at GU. As much as many doogs don't want to admit it, GU is 10x's the program UW is right now and has a pretty good stable of players. It's not like he's playing on UW where nobody can take your spot. At GU he's going to have to defend and shoot and beat out pretty damn good players to see the floor in mass quantity.

I'm not convinced he will be a shoe in to win the starting slot.

He will start and be a good player for the Zags. He will win a lot of games and WCC titles. He will lose early in the tournament.

You can say that about any GU player. I think he's going to be a decent player, but he also built up a lot of stats at UW while having zero competition on the roster for his minutes. He will not get that at GU. So there is something to be said about the mindset that he will waltz in and play 30 minutes a game. I don't think it's that cut and dried.

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

In all reality, I do wonder if NWG gets the burn he expects at GU. As much as many doogs don't want to admit it, GU is 10x's the program UW is right now and has a pretty good stable of players. It's not like he's playing on UW where nobody can take your spot. At GU he's going to have to defend and shoot and beat out pretty damn good players to see the floor in mass quantity.

I'm not convinced he will be a shoe in to win the starting slot.

He will start and be a good player for the Zags. He will win a lot of games and WCC titles. He will lose early in the tournament.

You can say that about any GU player. I think he's going to be a decent player, but he also built up a lot of stats at UW while having zero competition on the roster for his minutes. He will not get that at GU. So there is something to be said about the mindset that he will waltz in and play 30 minutes a game. I don't think it's that cut and dried.

GU plays in the WCC. NWG has already had two years of getting 14+ and 5-6 assists in the Pac 12. He will match those stats in the WCC. He will have better players around him against worse competition.

Take all the screenshots you need. He's going to be good at Gonzaga.

Few is notorious for the bait and switch. He had two transfers on this year's team who barely saw the floor. Nunes from Louisville and McClellan from Vanderbilt who collectively saw the floor 14 minutes per game. Nunes has left for USF.

NWG is the insurance policy for Josh Perkins. Willing to bet Fremont's left nut that either NWG or Perkins will be gone by their second year of eligibility at GU.

ThomasFremont said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

In all reality, I do wonder if NWG gets the burn he expects at GU. As much as many doogs don't want to admit it, GU is 10x's the program UW is right now and has a pretty good stable of players. It's not like he's playing on UW where nobody can take your spot. At GU he's going to have to defend and shoot and beat out pretty damn good players to see the floor in mass quantity.

I'm not convinced he will be a shoe in to win the starting slot.

He will start and be a good player for the Zags. He will win a lot of games and WCC titles. He will lose early in the tournament.

You can say that about any GU player. I think he's going to be a decent player, but he also built up a lot of stats at UW while having zero competition on the roster for his minutes. He will not get that at GU. So there is something to be said about the mindset that he will waltz in and play 30 minutes a game. I don't think it's that cut and dried.

GU plays in the WCC. NWG has already had two years of getting 14+ and 5-6 assists in the Pac 12. He will match those stats in the WCC. He will have better players around him against worse competition.

Take all the screenshots you need. He's going to be good at Gonzaga.

He will get plenty of stats, but he will be the same slow footed crappy shooter he's always been.

Screenshot it.

He will never be a great athlete, but he's a good college player. I'm not so sure about the shooting. One would think he will be a better shooter next time we see him in a game.

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

In all reality, I do wonder if NWG gets the burn he expects at GU. As much as many doogs don't want to admit it, GU is 10x's the program UW is right now and has a pretty good stable of players. It's not like he's playing on UW where nobody can take your spot. At GU he's going to have to defend and shoot and beat out pretty damn good players to see the floor in mass quantity.

I'm not convinced he will be a shoe in to win the starting slot.

He will start and be a good player for the Zags. He will win a lot of games and WCC titles. He will lose early in the tournament.

You can say that about any GU player. I think he's going to be a decent player, but he also built up a lot of stats at UW while having zero competition on the roster for his minutes. He will not get that at GU. So there is something to be said about the mindset that he will waltz in and play 30 minutes a game. I don't think it's that cut and dried.

GU plays in the WCC. NWG has already had two years of getting 14+ and 5-6 assists in the Pac 12. He will match those stats in the WCC. He will have better players around him against worse competition.

Take all the screenshots you need. He's going to be good at Gonzaga.

Slow your screen shots ruth. You obviously can't read or are completely missing the point. NWG can put up stats, and he will have zero problem doing so against WCC opponents if given minutes. However, he has to get on the floor to do so and this isn't the dreakfest UW roster of the last couple years which has zero competition. He will have high end competition on the roster for minutes and its not locked in that he'll walk onto the floor at GU and be gifted starters minutes considering his defensive and shooting deficiencies.

If he starts it will be interesting, and if he doesn't it will still be interesting to see if he declares.

Perkins is the only guy currently on the roster that will be around in two years. If they still had Pangos and Bell you might have a legitimate point. You don't even know who Gonzaga has. NWG is pretty good. We know his deficiencies, but he's pretty damn good.

Gonzaga isn't Kentucky or Duke. They aren't loaded with talent. Chances are high that Gonzaga isn't bringing in an 18 year old that will be better than a 22 year old NWG. Teams in college play two PG's, they play 3 guard line ups. We know he's going to play. Don't be fucking stupid. He might not get to dominate the ball like he did at UW, but he will be a featured player at Gonzaga.

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

RoadDawg55 said:

FreeChavez said:

In all reality, I do wonder if NWG gets the burn he expects at GU. As much as many doogs don't want to admit it, GU is 10x's the program UW is right now and has a pretty good stable of players. It's not like he's playing on UW where nobody can take your spot. At GU he's going to have to defend and shoot and beat out pretty damn good players to see the floor in mass quantity.

I'm not convinced he will be a shoe in to win the starting slot.

He will start and be a good player for the Zags. He will win a lot of games and WCC titles. He will lose early in the tournament.

You can say that about any GU player. I think he's going to be a decent player, but he also built up a lot of stats at UW while having zero competition on the roster for his minutes. He will not get that at GU. So there is something to be said about the mindset that he will waltz in and play 30 minutes a game. I don't think it's that cut and dried.

GU plays in the WCC. NWG has already had two years of getting 14+ and 5-6 assists in the Pac 12. He will match those stats in the WCC. He will have better players around him against worse competition.

Take all the screenshots you need. He's going to be good at Gonzaga.

Slow your screen shots ruth. You obviously can't read or are completely missing the point. NWG can put up stats, and he will have zero problem doing so against WCC opponents if given minutes. However, he has to get on the floor to do so and this isn't the dreakfest UW roster of the last couple years which has zero competition. He will have high end competition on the roster for minutes and its not locked in that he'll walk onto the floor at GU and be gifted starters minutes considering his defensive and shooting deficiencies.

If he starts it will be interesting, and if he doesn't it will still be interesting to see if he declares.

Perkins is the only guy currently on the roster that will be around in two years. If they still had Pangos and Bell you might have a legitimate point. You don't even know who Gonzaga has. NWG is pretty good. We know his deficiencies, but he's pretty damn good.

Gonzaga isn't Kentucky or Duke. They aren't loaded with talent. Chances are high that Gonzaga isn't bringing in an 18 year old that will be better than a 22 year old NWG. Teams in college play two PG's, they play 3 guard line ups. We know he's going to play. Don't be fucking stupid. He might not get to dominate the ball like he did at UW, but he will be a featured player at Gonzaga.

I think your panties are in a bunch over saying that he isn't a lock to kill it at GU. I hope the kid does well and wish romar had any roster to surround him with here. Let's not get all bent out a shape ruth

IMO, playing for the ZAGS is FREE PUB!!! for saying that you like to be a big fish in a small pond ...

He'll obviously have no problems playing in the WCC ...

Unless he magically improves in a few areas, the same holes he had at Washington (slow feet, lack of outside shooting) will hold at Gonzaga when playing against better competition than the WCC has to offer.

Going to Gonzaga will give him a better experience at the college level ... but I'd be surprised if it makes him that much of a better player. This screams to me of hiding your weaknesses instead of trying to turn those weaknesses into strengths.

ThomasFremont said:

Tequilla said:

IMO, playing for the ZAGS is FREE PUB!!! for saying that you like to be a big fish in a small pond ...

He'll obviously have no problems playing in the WCC ...

Unless he magically improves in a few areas, the same holes he had at Washington (slow feet, lack of outside shooting) will hold at Gonzaga when playing against better competition than the WCC has to offer.

Going to Gonzaga will give him a better experience at the college level ... but I'd be surprised if it makes him that much of a better player. This screams to me of hiding your weaknesses instead of trying to turn those weaknesses into strengths.

I like to prove I am an NBA caliber player by transferring to play against a lower level of competition.

NWGFS.

At least in his corner, learning to shoot can be fixed. Getting a year off to work on his game may actually be a benefit long term. Sadly there isn't anyway to improve his lack of ability to defend at the nba level which will always be a crutch. He still has a solid shot to be another guy who leaves UW to do quite well in another location.

ThomasFremont said:

FreeChavez said:

ThomasFremont said:

Tequilla said:

IMO, playing for the ZAGS is FREE PUB!!! for saying that you like to be a big fish in a small pond ...

He'll obviously have no problems playing in the WCC ...

Unless he magically improves in a few areas, the same holes he had at Washington (slow feet, lack of outside shooting) will hold at Gonzaga when playing against better competition than the WCC has to offer.

Going to Gonzaga will give him a better experience at the college level ... but I'd be surprised if it makes him that much of a better player. This screams to me of hiding your weaknesses instead of trying to turn those weaknesses into strengths.

I like to prove I am an NBA caliber player by transferring to play against a lower level of competition.

NWGFS.

At least in his corner, learning to shoot can be fixed. Getting a year off to work on his game may actually be a benefit long term. Sadly there isn't anyway to improve his lack of ability to defend at the nba level which will always be a crutch. He still has a solid shot to be another guy who leaves UW to do quite well in another location.

I'm sure he will have an easier time getting his slow ass jump shot off against the midgets in the WCC. Guarantee he's the kind of guy who believes his own stat sheet without examining the context of those stats (Connor Halliday).

I hope Murray sticks around long enough to posterize NWG in 2 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTiZ6dPR8o

He needs an overhaul of his jumper and he'd be fine. So far in his career it doesn't seem as though he's really open to suggestion and or coaching so we should probably assume his jumper will be the same until it isn't.

Do way is baby boy here. Unless he's an absolute dud, staying two years has proven to be a bad idea over and over and over again only b/c you start to lose the "potential" tag.

Quietcowskee said:

Dickau sure didn't seem good at UW.


He's going to start and do well.

No one is saying Goss didn't do well here, and he'll, in all likelihood, do well at Gonzaga.

But the notion that he'll likely have any kind of substantive career in the NBA is laughable.