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Pete vs. Sark OL Recruiting
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Sark brought in 18 OL in his 5 years. Only 3 were 4* or higher. To be fair, the 2010 OL class was very good and would have turned out a lot better if Porter and Kohler were developed properly. I don't know if you blame Sark, Ivan or they were overrated or abundance.
Anyway, from 2011-2013, in those three classes Sark brought in 10 OL with the only guys anywhere close to 4* being Dane Crane and Shane Brostek. Crane was a decent get but he didn't even have an offer from Oregon or UCLA. Brostek had offers from Oregon and UCLA. But he was a legacy! He was going to UW no matter how much of a douche Sark was. Take away Brostek and Sark didn't get any OL that Oregon, UCLA, Stanford wanted.
So far Pete has secured 9 OL and 4 of them are 4* guys. 4/9, 3/18, do the math. Doog reply: Yeah but thats just the early boost all coaches get. 3 of Sark's first 8 guys were 4*. Pete has brought in more 4* OL in 16 months then Sark did in 5 years!
I've noticed that Pete's recruits are taller with potential to grow into some big fuckers. Sark brought in only one guy who was 6'6 or bigger. McGary, Roberts, Adams, Hilbers, Burleson and Sosebee are all 6'6 or taller. These guys were 6'6-6'7 and 260-280lbs as recruits. I think that is a much better start than say 6'5 300 or 6'4 300. Those guys in HS were bigger and fatter than everywhere else. The OL recruits we have now have much bigger wingspans and come in needing to put on only muscle and not having to lose fat.
Ultimately, I bet having a real strength program will make a bigger difference than bringing in higher rated guys. Put both together and it bodes very well. We'll have to watch this season for early indications. A guy like Brostek will be an initial indication for how OL development is going. If he has an all-league type season it will be strong evidence that Strausser and Soha really know what they are doing.
Anyway, from 2011-2013, in those three classes Sark brought in 10 OL with the only guys anywhere close to 4* being Dane Crane and Shane Brostek. Crane was a decent get but he didn't even have an offer from Oregon or UCLA. Brostek had offers from Oregon and UCLA. But he was a legacy! He was going to UW no matter how much of a douche Sark was. Take away Brostek and Sark didn't get any OL that Oregon, UCLA, Stanford wanted.
So far Pete has secured 9 OL and 4 of them are 4* guys. 4/9, 3/18, do the math. Doog reply: Yeah but thats just the early boost all coaches get. 3 of Sark's first 8 guys were 4*. Pete has brought in more 4* OL in 16 months then Sark did in 5 years!
I've noticed that Pete's recruits are taller with potential to grow into some big fuckers. Sark brought in only one guy who was 6'6 or bigger. McGary, Roberts, Adams, Hilbers, Burleson and Sosebee are all 6'6 or taller. These guys were 6'6-6'7 and 260-280lbs as recruits. I think that is a much better start than say 6'5 300 or 6'4 300. Those guys in HS were bigger and fatter than everywhere else. The OL recruits we have now have much bigger wingspans and come in needing to put on only muscle and not having to lose fat.
Ultimately, I bet having a real strength program will make a bigger difference than bringing in higher rated guys. Put both together and it bodes very well. We'll have to watch this season for early indications. A guy like Brostek will be an initial indication for how OL development is going. If he has an all-league type season it will be strong evidence that Strausser and Soha really know what they are doing.
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Shane Brostek will be a guy to keep an eye on this year, and if he flourishes, he will be the poster boy for the difference between Sark and Petersen.
Kid comes into UW as a legacy, and even though he's got a lot of potential, he played in a B8-level church school league in Hawaii that was equivalent to a California middle school league. What does Sark do, he plays him immediately, despite having Sifa Tufunga, who already took a RS year. Brostek gets destroyed and demoralized.
Second year, Sark burns his RS yet again by putting him in for meaningless snaps during garbage time in a few games. It appears Sark's plan is to just run the kid out of the program because he didn't work right away.
Pete comes in, let's the kid redshirt, kid puts up the best weightlifting numbers on the team, and now has him running with the one's in all the practices. It will be interesting, but no twisting
One of the first things I've noticed about Pete's OL recruits is their height.
It could be too much for me to think he will breakout right away. Maybe it won't be until the 2016 season. I have a hunch he will end up getting all-league recognition before his career is done.
Either way, it'll be interesting.
Sark: 3 ****, 9 ***, 6 **
2009:
Mafoe 3* (JC)
2010:
Kohler 4*
Porter 4*
Hatchie 4*
Riva 3*
Tanigawa 2*
Criste 2*
Atoe 2*
2011:
Tufunga 3*
Charles 3*
2012:
Eldrenkamp 3*
Dean 3*
Brostek 3*
Fuavai 2*
Hindy 2*
2013:
Crane 3*
Kirkland 3*
Shelton 2*
Petersen: 4 ****, 2 ***, 3 **
2014:
McGary 4*
James 3*
Sosebee 2*
Turner 2*
Burleson 2*
2015:
Roberts 4*
Adams 4*
Hibers 3*
2016 (ongoing):
Wattenberg 4*
And BTW, any success this line has is because Seven was smart enough to recruit them in the first place.
As you recall the rap on Zach Banner was that he was too tall, 6'9". Now Sark's got him.
Nice thread.
Sark is a faggot piece of shit.
Tackles should be 6-5+, 290+
Guards should be 6-4+, 300+
Centers should be dirty.
Right now, we have 7 guys who have above average size for their position in the Pac-12: Adams, Burleson, Hilbers, McGary, Roberts, Sosebee, Charles. Notice a trend?
On our current roster, the average height of a Pete OL recruit is 6-6, a Sark OL recruit, 6-4.
What's worse is average height by position:
Sark T: 6-4
Pete T: 6-7
Sark G/C: 6-4
Pete G/C: 6-5
Just to make you realize how fucking awful Micah Hatchie was, this 'video' was made with a potato and copied on a Xerox machine 40 times for optimal quality, but it is meant to highlight both Shane Fortney's brief—but glorious—reign at QB for us and how a decent OL is supposed to look.
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