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Petersen Quote re: Browning
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Trying not to read too much into this, but this is the most telling quote Petersen's had regarding the QBs this Spring, specifically Browning:
"He's not a true freshman in my mind."
It's widely known UW has never started a true freshman @ QB for their season opener and has rarely ever played true FR QBs, let alone start them. Tui in '97 was the first, and only, to start a game as a true freshman (vs U0), to my knowledge.
From all accounts, it sounds like Browning is a football savant, so mentally he may be ready. But physically, it's pretty obvious from the eye-test that he's not physically matured. He needs to put on some pounds to make it thru a PAC-12 season. Putting him behind an inexperienced OLine, with not a lot (if any) of proven offensive skill players around him, could be asking for disaster.
It's pretty apparent that he's the future, but when to play him is the million dollar question.
"He's not a true freshman in my mind."
It's widely known UW has never started a true freshman @ QB for their season opener and has rarely ever played true FR QBs, let alone start them. Tui in '97 was the first, and only, to start a game as a true freshman (vs U0), to my knowledge.
From all accounts, it sounds like Browning is a football savant, so mentally he may be ready. But physically, it's pretty obvious from the eye-test that he's not physically matured. He needs to put on some pounds to make it thru a PAC-12 season. Putting him behind an inexperienced OLine, with not a lot (if any) of proven offensive skill players around him, could be asking for disaster.
It's pretty apparent that he's the future, but when to play him is the million dollar question.
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Get him on the 5000 calorie a day, clen, and tren routine and he'll be fine in no time
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What's that?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Get him on the 5000 calorie a day, clen, and tren routine and he'll be fine in no time
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Browning needs to be the guy. Simple fact.
It's a tough give and take though. We might suck even with Browning and he would likely be better off with a redshirt. -
Lindy is what he is ... I don't think he's leaving under any situation ...
I don't know what Magna Carta's situation is and whether if Browning passed him whether or not he'd decide to leave or not. My sense is that unless he's absolutely terrible, it could make sense to start him and then open it up again to a competition next year.
The only way that I'd play Browning this year is if he's head and shoulders above and beyond Lindy and Magna ... if that's the case there's no real decision to be made. -
Dr. Feelgood candyHuskyJW said:
What's that?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Get him on the 5000 calorie a day, clen, and tren routine and he'll be fine in no time
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Tough call for Peterson if Browning continues to improve through August. He doesn't seem that far away from the level where KJ and Lindy are playing in spring.
If Pete Carroll was the coach at UW, I think he'd go with Browning. He went with Barkley over Corp and Mitch Mustain, because he wasn't that much worse than those two and he had more potential. -
REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
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What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
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I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
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He isn't a pussy. I have no doubt he prays to God each night you ain't his daddy. The best player plays.
Stop trying to over think this, please. -
This fake UCLA fan is annoying me.BallSacked said:Tough call for Peterson if Browning continues to improve through August. He doesn't seem that far away from the level where KJ and Lindy are playing in spring.
If Pete Carroll was the coach at UW, I think he'd go with Browning. He went with Barkley over Corp and Mitch Mustain, because he wasn't that much worse than those two and he had more potential. -
Sounds like you care...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
This fake UCLA fan is annoying me.BallSacked said:Tough call for Peterson if Browning continues to improve through August. He doesn't seem that far away from the level where KJ and Lindy are playing in spring.
If Pete Carroll was the coach at UW, I think he'd go with Browning. He went with Barkley over Corp and Mitch Mustain, because he wasn't that much worse than those two and he had more potential.
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If he isn't physically ready to stand behind a new OL, then he's also probably not the best person for the job.
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I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then. -
I hope you're right. I agree that we didn't lose much on the OL from last year, but the likely starters this year couldn't beat those guys out. I will be bullish on the OL when I see them doing well.FremontTroll said:
I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then.
Eldrenkamp, Tufunga, and Coleman Shelton don't really inspire me into thinking the OL will be very good despite the upgrade in coaching. -
2 words: Jake Plummer. Now end this bullshit discussion. And Plummer didnt have spring ball to acclimate.
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Sure but Tufunga and Shelton started for much of the season due to injuries. So instead of the one returning starter that it looked like we would have before Kohler's medical retirement, Riva's myriad injuries, and Charles' issues we really have three. So my prediction of actual improvement is based both on the disappointing performance last year (2014 was supposed to be really special) and the increased snaps that Tufunga and Shelton benefited from.RoadDawg55 said:
I hope you're right. I agree that we didn't lose much on the OL from last year, but the likely starters this year couldn't beat those guys out. I will be bullish on the OL when I see them doing well.FremontTroll said:
I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then.
Eldrenkamp, Tufunga, and Coleman Shelton don't really inspire me into thinking the OL will be very good despite the upgrade in coaching.
Add in Brostek coming off a redshirt and Crane stepping up and we actually have a serious competition going on for the inside spots.
It all hinges on Eldrenkamp at tackle. If he is halfway decent the line could be very good. Obviously that is a huge IF. But my prediction is the line will actually be a little bit better than last year. Then again a little bit better in 2016. And obviously special in 2017. -
To be fair, Coleman Shelton 2015 > 2014 and we never really got center right in 2014 so Tufunga could actually be an upgrade there. Could RS-JR Brostek match what we got from RG last year? Probably.
Dex Charles is back at LG (30 career starts now) so it's LT that's probably the biggest question mark. On a scale of 1-10, I'd probably give Hatchie a 4 in 2014 so can Eldrenkamp at least match that?
I think we're deeper and better at TE than in 2014 but don't know if any of them are good at pass blocking in case we need to keep a TE in to help the OTs against better pass-rushing teams (likely Eldrenkamp and Shelton).
But ultimately who knows if Browning will be ready...he's really in the spring semester of his high school senior year so in another 4 months on Montlake, he could get stronger with machine weights / chocolate milk...enough to put on 10 pounds by mid August.RoadDawg55 said:
I hope you're right. I agree that we didn't lose much on the OL from last year, but the likely starters this year couldn't beat those guys out. I will be bullish on the OL when I see them doing well.FremontTroll said:
I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then.
Eldrenkamp, Tufunga, and Coleman Shelton don't really inspire me into thinking the OL will be very good despite the upgrade in coaching. -
If da kid is ready, then let's go!
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I just hope Tufunga has the snap yips outta him
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I think we are on the same page. It all comes down to Zach Banner...I mean Jake Eldrenkamp. Whoops- how did that happen?HFNY said:To be fair, Coleman Shelton 2015 > 2014 and we never really got center right in 2014 so Tufunga could actually be an upgrade there. Could RS-JR Brostek match what we got from RG last year? Probably.
Dex Charles is back at LG (30 career starts now) so it's LT that's probably the biggest question mark. On a scale of 1-10, I'd probably give Hatchie a 4 in 2014 so can Eldrenkamp at least match that?
I think we're deeper and better at TE than in 2014 but don't know if any of them are good at pass blocking in case we need to keep a TE in to help the OTs against better pass-rushing teams (likely Eldrenkamp and Shelton).
But ultimately who knows if Browning will be ready...he's really in the spring semester of his high school senior year so in another 4 months on Montlake, he could get stronger with machine weights / chocolate milk...enough to put on 10 pounds by mid August.RoadDawg55 said:
I hope you're right. I agree that we didn't lose much on the OL from last year, but the likely starters this year couldn't beat those guys out. I will be bullish on the OL when I see them doing well.FremontTroll said:
I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then.
Eldrenkamp, Tufunga, and Coleman Shelton don't really inspire me into thinking the OL will be very good despite the upgrade in coaching. -
We are 2-3 years away from winning the pac12. That includes the Oline and QB developement. The future Is with our 2nd team Oline and the studs Pete brought in last year.RoadDawg55 said:
I hope you're right. I agree that we didn't lose much on the OL from last year, but the likely starters this year couldn't beat those guys out. I will be bullish on the OL when I see them doing well.FremontTroll said:
I'm pretty bullish on our OL for this season. Another year with in the new system and with real coaching will do wonders. Riva was our one true difference maker...and he barely played last year. So what did we really lose? Nothing irreplaceable.RoadDawg55 said:
I never know of you're serious. You're saving him from possibly getting the shit kicked out of him behind a green OL. QB's are never the same when that happens.sarktastic said:
What in the hell are we saving him for... The NFL?jecornel said:REDSHIRT.....bite the bullet pete
But of course 2017 is going to be special so yeah lets just put him behind the glass until then.
Eldrenkamp, Tufunga, and Coleman Shelton don't really inspire me into thinking the OL will be very good despite the upgrade in coaching.
We havent brought in o-linemen like this since DJ's classes and Lambo's, with guys like Coats, Olson, and UW's LAST real olineman in Kreutz...all pro NFL linemen.. It's been 20 years since UW has recruited an Olineman.
Petersen's Oline recruiting is amazing considering the shitpile tubbalards we've seen since Lambo got fired. Im giddy. Cant wait to roll out a 2-deep that looks like tOSU's during warm ups. Big, mean, nasty dudes who look the part. I think Peter's Oline recruiting rivals any in the pac12, in just 2 years.
Now we just got to wait for Sarks marshmellows to use up their eligibility. In 2-3 years, UW will roll out a 2 deep who'll line up and actually push guys around, create a running game without having to throw the ball around like cunts, to just barely move the ball on the ground.
$ankey got most of his yards on his own, Polk got his yards with Tyrone's linemen. In 5 years Sark didnt recruit 1 fucking linemen worthy of pac12 mention or nfl draft worthiness. (Dexter Charles gets a pass) Petersen has already recruited 5-6 guys who could really develop into something, and develop Sark guys like Crane and Brostek into players....guys who would have withered away under Sark. -
Puppy posts a complete turd about Sark and then drops this dime!
See my post about the OL recruiting.
I know Roadie has been voicing concern about the OL but I think it will exceed expectations….doesn't mean I think it will be good but I think it will be okay, not bad.
I think Brostek will surprise and have an all-league season. I think Crane will be decent and Charles will be good if he's not in the doghouse. The tackle positions will be the key as @CokeGreaterThanPepsi noted a few days ago. Hatchie actually had a decent year last year at LT, and if we had him back I bet the line would be above average at least. Eldenkramp would be a backup on the best teams in the league…not sure he's talented enough to be a decent LT.
