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Kasen said he ran a 4.52??

HuskyJW
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LOL...in what??? He surely doesn't mean the 40 yard dash does he?
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    edited April 2015
    "Williams, a former prep All-American, helped reassure scouts that he's recovered from a horrific foot injury two years ago, by clocking in at a respectable 4.62 in the 40-yard dash and posting a 35.5" vertical jump after measuring in at a chiseled 6-foot-1 (and 1/2") and 218 pounds. Williams caught the ball very well during his positional drills, snatching passes from former Washington quarterback Keith Price."

    Seriously fubar in all reality, Kasen should have at least 41-43" inch vertical. This is the one player Sark and his staff really fucked over. Gotta feel bad for him.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    I always thought he was faster than most on the board. I predicted a 4.7 or better during the season. He just never had any quicks.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,423 Founders Club
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I always thought he was faster than most on the board. I predicted a 4.7 or better during the season. He just never had any quicks.

    I don't think Mario Bailey was ever going to win any foot races, but he had incredible quicks.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,679 Swaye's Wigwam
    Not too bad. Someone will like him and he'll be a good receiver in the NFL. He can haul in some tough balls and get some tough yards with the ball in his hands. He's never going to put up big #s but he'll be a useful receiver.
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  • blackmamba
    blackmamba Member Posts: 184
    chuck said:

    Not too bad. Someone will like him and he'll be a good receiver in the NFL. He can haul in some tough balls and get some tough yards with the ball in his hands. He's never going to put up big #s but he'll be a useful receiver practice squad player.



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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,679 Swaye's Wigwam
    blackmamba said:

    chuck said:

    Not too bad. Someone will like him and he'll be a good receiver in the NFL. He can haul in some tough balls and get some tough yards with the ball in his hands. He's never going to put up big #s but he'll be a useful receiver practice squad player.



    Practice squad players aren't useful?
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I always thought he was faster than most on the board. I predicted a 4.7 or better during the season. He just never had any quicks.

    I don't think Mario Bailey was ever going to win any foot races, but he had incredible quicks.
    lacked top end speed?
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,390
    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).
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  • Vegasdawg
    Vegasdawg Member Posts: 370
    I too think he should have red shirted. The problem i see is as others have already mentioned, his inability to jump as high as he needs to. He might get signed as a after thought but I doubt he will be drafted.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    I think, in the right situation, Kasen could be really good. I imagine everyone here (myself included) would've killed Jermaine Kearse and said he had no chance to play in the NFL, but I think Kasen could have a similar career. He has a unique skill set, it's just that people need to use it.

    I felt like he was used wrong his whole career.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,390
    I can't believe I'm defending Sloppy Steve but I imagine it was Kasen's call not to redshirt in 2014 (when Sloppy Steve was ripping patron in SoCal again, thanking his lucky stars that HadenFS rescued him from Seattle).
    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    No way, Seven needed Kasen from day 1. Kasen will and should return from this injury 90% by the book. A guy who high jumps 7' in high school seriously has some explosion and speed. With the NFL money, trainers and illegal enhancements, he will recover.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    DerekJohnson said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    I always thought he was faster than most on the board. I predicted a 4.7 or better during the season. He just never had any quicks.

    I don't think Mario Bailey was ever going to win any foot races, but he had incredible quicks.
    Steve Largent never had any quicks but he knew how to run a route and get open.

    How someone with Kasen's physical skills never had any separation is baffling.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    edited April 2015
    HuskyInAZ said:

    When Kasen is healthy, he could be really good. But IMO, he's still not all the way back. A 35" vertical for a guy who high jumped 7' and triple jumped 50' in HS tells me he's still not fully healed.

    As for being used wrong, he was obviously not healthy in 2014. Tough to use a gimpy WR, especially with a noodle-armed QB who throws with his eyes closed. Not a great combo. In hindsight, a RS in 2014 would likely have been the best call.

    I think Kasen had the ability to be an NFL WR. Probably not a very good one, but a middle round pick who could bounce around for a little bit.

    After the injury, he's done. He didn't have any speed to sacrifice. I'll be surprised if he makes a practice squad.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    If Kasen wasn't so hyped out of high school nobody would have thought that much of him in college. There are lots of guys like him in California and other states in high school. he was a good recruit but way over hyped.
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    RoadDawg55 said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,763
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
    If that's true he will recover
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    Thought it was Lisfranc
    It was Lisfranc. Remember how long it took Stanback to recover after Oregon State?
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    NeGgaPlEaSe said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Gladstone said:

    HFNY said:

    Kasen should've redshirted if he was smart but great players usually think they can return faster than they really can. Would've been really nice to have him in 2015 on the Huskies as 100% healthy but oh well.

    I could see him being a practice squad guy for a year and then making a roster somewhere (either NFL or CFL in 2016).

    Fucking THIS.

    Fuck Sark. Really cheering for Kasen and will be genuinely upset if he doesn't realize his NFL dream.
    How is it Sark's fault?

    For not pushing him to reach his full potential, like all of Sark's recruits, he regressed

    I would definitely agree that Sark didn't get the most out of Kasen. He was never used right. That said, he was an NFL WR before the gruesome injury.
    Jamora and Cooper had worse injuries IMHO. Did we ever get a definitive on Kasen's injury? What was it? Foot, Leg? Either way, given his 35" and 4.6 speed, he should be on his way to full recovery.
    This is just FS. There are differing degrees of injuries. Some ACL tears are worse than others. Some Lisfranc injuries are worse than others. To declare that a couple of ACL tears are worse than a given Listranc injury defies common sense.

    It was clear that Kasen was not healthy all year, but he certainly got healthier later in the year.
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