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Assistant coach TJ Otzelbetrgerererererer Sold the Couch
ThomasFremont
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No warning, just gone...
...to Iowa St.
...to Iowa St.
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You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust. -
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Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis. -
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter? -
Brad Jackson hater.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
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You mean the guy brought in to install the high post offense that looks like an alleyway abortion?PurpleThrobber said:
Brad Jackson hater.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter? -
Come on, not one "bring back boner" comment yet?
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They need more time.FreeChavez said:Come on, not one "bring back boner" comment yet?
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To respond to both, I don't think it's a lateral job at all. Iowa state has been good and is building. UW is going into the dumpster and TJ knows that they will have no posts, and mainly young guys to try for one more year. At that point, generally most assume romar would be canned and TJ would be out of a job.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
He was "good" people, as in, he was a well sought after assistant especially in recruiting. Maybe seattle wasn't for him, but my guess is that he was offered a job at a program that isn't in a dumpster fire and would prefer a better experience. -
I bet there is a chorus on DM.C about boner right nowMisterEm said:
They need more time.FreeChavez said:Come on, not one "bring back boner" comment yet?
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Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter? -
Obviously he knows somethingHuskyInAZ said:
Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
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As has been discussed a million times already, recruiting isn't really the issue.HuskyInAZ said:
Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter? -
Actually, it's a huge issue. Here's a few reasons why:ThomasFremont said:
As has been discussed a million times already, recruiting isn't really the issue.HuskyInAZ said:
Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
Quevyn Winters
Tristan Etienne
Gilles Dierxks
Jahmel Taylor
Mike Anderson
Mark McLaughlin
Andrew Andrews
Jernard Jerreau
Hikeem Stewart
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I'll counter with the list of 1st round draft picks and NBA players that I'm too lazy to type out.bananasnblondes said:
Actually, it's a huge issue. Here's a few reasons why:ThomasFremont said:
As has been discussed a million times already, recruiting isn't really the issue.HuskyInAZ said:
Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
Quevyn Winters
Tristan Etienne
Gilles Dierxks
Jahmel Taylor
Mike Anderson
Mark McLaughlin
Andrew Andrews
Jernard Jerreau
Hikeem Stewart -
Though I wouldn't include Andrew Andrews in that list and Jerreau could end up being pretty good if he stays healthy.bananasnblondes said:
Actually, it's a huge issue. Here's a few reasons why:ThomasFremont said:
As has been discussed a million times already, recruiting isn't really the issue.HuskyInAZ said:
Pretty sure TJ was on the staff to recruit. And this incoming class looks to be better than we've seen in a long time. So losing your best recruiter.....yes, it does matter.ThomasFremont said:
Don't misconstrue this, but what makes coach TJ "good people" aka a good coach?Tequilla said:
Not leaving to go to Iowa State, leaving to go BACK to Iowa State.HuskyInAZ said:You know your program is in good shape when you lose perhaps your best assistant to Iowa State....on a lateral move.
Nothing to see here. In Romar we trust.
And generally speaking based on my experience, when you start seeing good people leave an organization, it's a slamming indictment on the existing leadership and the faith that people have with said leadership's ability to get the job done on a go-forward basis.
The team sucked while he was here.
Not saying that's his fault, but does this even matter?
Quevyn Winters
Tristan Etienne
Gilles Dierxks
Jahmel Taylor
Mike Anderson
Mark McLaughlin
Andrew Andrews
Jernard Jerreau
Hikeem Stewart -
What's Ken Bone up to? Could do worse than bringing him back.
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I think you all are misstating the wording and arguing semantics. Recruiting isn't the issue, talent evaluation is the issue. Romar and company have been targeting players that no other pac12 schools are going for. You know what's common with every guy on the list above? None(outside maybe tristan) were recruited by pac12 schools seriously. UW was competing against the likes of san jose state, tulane and schools like that for most of these guys. Our current roster is filled with very few players who had legit high end offers(ie committable).
When romar actually locks into a player he isn't a bad recruiter, but he and his staff have been horrendous at narrowing down talent which can play at the pac12 level. Whether that's laziness(which i don't believe) or just lack of a true direction of the program and how to fit players to romars new style. -
Makin' big cheese from Wazzu.HFNY said:What's Ken Bone up to? Could do worse than bringing him back.
On the Montana bench.
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THISFreeChavez said:I think you all are misstating the wording and arguing semantics. Recruiting isn't the issue, talent evaluation is the issue. Romar and company have been targeting players that no other pac12 schools are going for. You know what's common with every guy on the list above? None(outside maybe tristan) were recruited by pac12 schools seriously. UW was competing against the likes of san jose state, tulane and schools like that for most of these guys. Our current roster is filled with very few players who had legit high end offers(ie committable).
When romar actually locks into a player he isn't a bad recruiter, but he and his staff have been horrendous at narrowing down talent which can play at the pac12 level. Whether that's laziness(which i don't believe) or just lack of a true direction of the program and how to fit players to romars new style. -
The program has true direction.
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Things went down hill with the High Post offense. I understand the tribute to Wooden but no one wants to play in that style.
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It's not that nobody wants to play in that style ... that's a FS comment to make given that you wouldn't expect most people want to run the Bo Ryan swinging gate offense.huskyhooligan said:Things went down hill with the High Post offense. I understand the tribute to Wooden but no one wants to play in that style.
The problem with the high post was a number of factors:
1) Didn't have the players on the roster to run that offense. It needs to have a strong passing presence at the high post combined with somebody that can consistently make that mid-range shot (note, running that offense DOES NOT require that person to be a PF or C). The whole key to the high post offense is that it opens up the 15 feet between the free throw line and the basket. However, you have to be able to have guys on the floor that can make those shots to prevent defenders from sagging into the lane.
2) Lack of scoring on the team. The high post kills teams by being able to create favorable matchups and those that gamble. When teams are able to sag and dictate to you where the shot comes from, it doesn't matter what offense you run at that point.
3) Didn't recruit players to fit into the system. Forget switching over to a system as you might not have the players to run it, but you sure as hell start recruiting to that system. Hasn't happened under Romar.
4) Players with little investment into the program and instead are too busy trying to get theirs have no time for a system that stresses the team over the individual or don't placate to individual 1 on 1 style play.
Moreover, you can see elements of the high post offense in almost every single game that you see, particularly at the NBA level. Almost all successful teams in the league run some variation of either the high post or triangle that focuses in on ball/player movement ahead of isolation play. Even when you look at teams like Houston, they are in some ways running variants of these principals in that they are inverting the plan to get easy scores at the rim by trying to get open looks around the 3 point line.
