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Hillary has been hiding documents for decades...

d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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edited March 2015 in Tug Tavern
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"It doesn’t matter.

That’s what some in the media have insisted about former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s decision to use her own private server and email address to avoid public scrutiny for her entire tenure. David Brock, wild-haired henchman for Hillary Clinton at the Clinton-backed Media Matters for America, appeared on MSNBC today to play defense. He demanded that The New York Times retract their story on Hillary’s hidden emails. “There is no violation of law here, Joe, that I can see whatsoever,” Brock insisted. That prompted even MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski to wonder aloud, “Oh, my God. I’m not sure what planet I’m on right now.”

Probably the same planet, Mika, where the media have ignored Hillary Clinton’s obstructions and dissemblance for decades. Hillary Clinton has a long and inglorious history of alleged document tampering and questionable legal maneuverings. Here are some of her greatest hits:

Hillary’s “Thwarted Record Requests.” On Wednesday, the Times reported that Clinton used her private email address to avoid turning over documents to Congressional committees investigating the Benghazi, Libya terror attack of September 11, 2012. According to the Times, “It was one of several instances in which records requests sent to the State Department, which had no access to Mrs. Clinton’s emails, came up empty.” The State Department did the same routine with regard to a Freedom of Information Act request asking for correspondence between Hillary and former political hit man Sidney Blumenthal; in 2010, the AP said its FOIA requests had gone unanswered by the State Department on the same grounds; the same holds true with regard to FOIA requests from conservative group Citizens United.

Hillary’s First Emailgate. According to Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, Hillary’s top woman, Cheryl Mills – you remember her from Benghazi – “helped orchestrate the cover-up of a major scandal, often referred to as ‘Email-gate.’” Over the course of years, the Clinton Administration allegedly withheld some 1.8 million email communications from Judicial Watch’s attorneys, as well as federal investigators and Congress. Judicial Watch says that when a White House computer contractor attempted to reveal the emails, White House officials “instructed her to keep her mouth shut about the hidden e-mail or face dismissal and jail time.”

Hillary’s Missing Whitewater Documents. In 1996, a special Senate Whitewater committee released a report from the FBI demonstrating that documents sought in the Whitewater investigation had been found in the personal Clinton quarters of the White House. The First Lady’s fingerprints were on them. The documents had gone mysteriously missing for two years. Mark Fabiani, special White House counsel, immediately stated that there was no problem, according to the Times: “He added that she had testified under oath that she had nothing to do with the documents during the two years they were missing and did not know how they ended up in the family quarters.” Hillary remains the only First Lady in American history to be fingerprinted by the FBI. Those weren’t the only missing Whitewater documents later found in the Clinton White House. Rose Law billing records were found years after being sought “in the storage area in the third-floor private residence at the White House where unsolicited gifts to the President and First Lady are stored before being sorted and catalogued.”

Hillary’s Missing Travelgate Documents. In 1996, just before the Whitewater documents emerged – literally the day before – a two-year-old memo emerged, according to The New York Times, showing that Hillary “had played a far greater role in the dismissal of employees of the White House travel office than the Administration has acknowledged.” Oops.

Hillary’s “Unethical Practices” During Watergate. According to Democrat Jerry Zeifman, Hillary “engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules” designed to keep Nixon in office long enough to guarantee a Democratic presidential victory in 1976. Zeifman said that Clinton – then Hillary Rodham — had worked with Teddy Kennedy’s political strategist. More specifically, Zeifman accused Rodham of writing a fraudulent legal brief and grabbing public documents. Zeifman fired her, and later claimed that he wished he had reported her to the Bar.

Hillary has a long history of this behavior. But that won’t stop her from moving forward. The media are less interested in governmental transparency than in picking the next president – and making sure the next president represents the hard, corrupt left."
Ben Shapiro, author of The People vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against The Obama Administration.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,447
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    Some people think that's trolling
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,601
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    So did Colin powell
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,882
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    One observation after wading through that article.

    I would like to play with Mika Brzezinski's fun bags.
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    d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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    Some people think that's trolling

    "What difference does it make?" Vince Foster.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    "Hillary’s “Unethical Practices” During Watergate. According to Democrat Jerry Zeifman, Hillary “engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules” designed to keep Nixon in office long enough to guarantee a Democratic presidential victory in 1976. Zeifman said that Clinton – then Hillary Rodham — had worked with Teddy Kennedy’s political strategist. More specifically, Zeifman accused Rodham of writing a fraudulent legal brief and grabbing public documents. Zeifman fired her, and later claimed that he wished he had reported her to the Bar."

    It's funny you guys even believe this stuff. It's even funnier when you think the people that don't believe it are the gullible ones.
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    HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    Come out from underneath obama's taint, Hondo. Your exuberance down there is restricting oxygen to your brain.
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    d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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    2001400ex said:

    "Hillary’s “Unethical Practices” During Watergate. According to Democrat Jerry Zeifman, Hillary “engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules” designed to keep Nixon in office long enough to guarantee a Democratic presidential victory in 1976. Zeifman said that Clinton – then Hillary Rodham — had worked with Teddy Kennedy’s political strategist. More specifically, Zeifman accused Rodham of writing a fraudulent legal brief and grabbing public documents. Zeifman fired her, and later claimed that he wished he had reported her to the Bar."

    It's funny you guys even believe this stuff. It's even funnier when you think the people that don't believe it are the gullible ones.

    Hondo, unfortunately for you it's true. Open your fucking mind and let some truth in. You believe her fucking tweets? OMG.

    You are about to learn so much about the Clintons.

    Why Did Hillary Launch Her Email Address When She Did? Why did Hillary Clinton initiate her new domain the day of her Senate confirmation hearings? That looks an awful lot like intent to conceal her emails, given that she did not simply continue using an old email address. Given Hillary’s history of dicey behavior with documents and her comments in 2000 that she didn’t do email because of all of the times she’s “been investigated and all of that,” suspicion ought to be elevated.

    Did Hillary Delete Emails? Why did Hillary insist on using her own server in her own house rather than a public server, as so many other Obama administration officials did? Could it be because, as Bloomberg reported, the “private email-system… gave her a high level of control over communications, including the ability to erase messages completely”?

    Were Hillary’s Emails Hacked? Was it not a massive breach of security for the Obama administration, which must have known about Hillary’s email habits, to allow her to continue using her email without checking it for security? According to Bloomberg, “her consultants appear to have set it up with a misconfigured encryption system, something that left it vulnerable to hacking.” And how would we even know if Hillary’s emails had been hacked?

    Why Were Hillary’s Aides Using Private Email? As Gawker points out, it is highly suspicious that not only did Hillary use ClintonEmail.com, her top aide did as well. If she were not attempting to conceal those communications, why would she ask her top aide, Huma Abedin, to join her in her private email safe room?

    Why Didn’t The State Department Review Hillary’s Emails? Because Hillary used her personal email address rather than a State Department email address, the State Department had no access to her emails. So her claims to have turned over 55,000 relevant documents to the State Department ring hollow, given that according to The New York Times, “Mrs. Clinton’s advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails and decided which ones to turn over to the State Department.” Who were these advisers? What was their agenda? As the Times says, “How many emails were in Mrs. Clinton’s account is not clear, and neither is the process her advisers used to determine which ones related to her work at the State Department before turning them over.”

    Why Didn’t The Obama Administration Make Hillary Use a Government Account? The most transparent administration in history didn’t see a reason to make Hillary Clinton use a government email account in accordance with law. Jason Baron, former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration, points out, “I can recall no instance in my time at the National Archives when a high-ranking official at an executive branch agency solely used a personal email account for the transaction of government business.” The Obama administration has refused comment, although they must have been on the other end of those emails.

    Does Hillary Have Other Email Accounts? On Wednesday, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) said Clinton used “more than one” private email account while at the State Department, although her lawyer said she used only one. Jamal Ware, communications director for the Select Committee on Benghazi, said, “the Select Committee on Benghazi is in possession of records with two separate and distinct email addresses used by former Secretary Clinton and dated during the time she was Secretary of State.” He added, “Without access to the relevant electronic information and stored data on the server — which was reportedly registered to her home — there is no way the Committee, or anyone else, can fully explain why the Committee uncovered two email addresses.”
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    d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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    edited March 2015
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    "What difference does it make?"
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    allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Death, you have an extreme boner for Hillary. I get she could have been a fox back in the day, but she's 70 now. That's kinda gross.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,237
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    2001400ex said:

    Death, you have an extreme boner for Hillary. I get she could have been a fox back in the day, but she's 70 now. That's kinda gross.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    AZDuck said:

    As a duck who has drawn a federal paycheck - this is a serious problem. Federal email systems are centrally backed up and archived so that emails can be retrieved for investigations and FOIA requests. If the SecState's email was located on a private server, this means that her communications aren't available. This is a clear violation of Federal policy. And it should be an issue if Hillary decides to run for President.

    There are 47% of you who would never vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,447
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    Hilary would have been better than Obama but why should I vote for her in 2016? What is she bringing to the table?
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    d2dd2d Member Posts: 3,109
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    AZDuck said:

    As a duck who has drawn a federal paycheck - this is a serious problem. Federal email systems are centrally backed up and archived so that emails can be retrieved for investigations and FOIA requests. If the SecState's email was located on a private server [in her personal residence], this means that her communications aren't available. This is a clear violation of Federal policy. And it should be an issue if Hillary decides to run for President.

    fixed.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Doogles said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    As a duck who has drawn a federal paycheck - this is a serious problem. Federal email systems are centrally backed up and archived so that emails can be retrieved for investigations and FOIA requests. If the SecState's email was located on a private server, this means that her communications aren't available. This is a clear violation of Federal policy. And it should be an issue if Hillary decides to run for President.

    There are 47% of you who would never vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    And there is 100% of you that will vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    Yeah no.
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    loadsockloadsock Member Posts: 686
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    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    As a duck who has drawn a federal paycheck - this is a serious problem. Federal email systems are centrally backed up and archived so that emails can be retrieved for investigations and FOIA requests. If the SecState's email was located on a private server, this means that her communications aren't available. This is a clear violation of Federal policy. And it should be an issue if Hillary decides to run for President.

    There are 47% of you who would never vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    And there is 100% of you that will vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    Yeah no.
    You're rather full of shit. You unequivocally support anyone with a D after their name. Your attempts of trying to suggest otherwise only confirms you're a terrible liar.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    loadsock said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    2001400ex said:

    AZDuck said:

    As a duck who has drawn a federal paycheck - this is a serious problem. Federal email systems are centrally backed up and archived so that emails can be retrieved for investigations and FOIA requests. If the SecState's email was located on a private server, this means that her communications aren't available. This is a clear violation of Federal policy. And it should be an issue if Hillary decides to run for President.

    There are 47% of you who would never vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    And there is 100% of you that will vote for Hillary no matter what she does.
    Yeah no.
    You're rather full of shit. You unequivocally support anyone with a D after their name. Your attempts of trying to suggest otherwise only confirms you're a terrible liar.

    Except you don't read what I write. I dont support democrats. I just call bullshit on lies posted by dumb fucks like Death. Both parties are fucked up.

    HTH
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