College players starting to sue over concussions now
espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9633552/former-football-players-sue-ncaa-concussions
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Disagree. Even in college players suffer severe concussions, some diagnosed and others not. Especially when the players aren't being paid, head safety should be paramount. I'm sure you've seen how difficult it is for players who have suffered numerous concussions just to make it through the day. Some former players have committed suicide due to CTE. Helmet to helmet hits need to go.
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"Zach Fogerson"
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And all the fucktards commenting on that ESPN article don't understand the simple difference between it being a dangerous sport, and the NCAA withholding information/failing to educate players about concussions.
Knee injuries, ankle injuries and the like are not the same as head injuries where the effects are difficult to diagnose and can have much more severe consequences to the player. How many times were concussed players told "they just got their bell rung" and sent back on the field? That's the difference. -
I think flagrant targeting to the head should be illegal, eg., shots on wide receivers. The problem is that there is helmet-to-helmet contact in football on every single play. The question is not if there is helmet-to-helmet contact but how it happens. Refs will call "helmet-to-helmet" if you tackle a QB or WR, but not if you tackle a running back. A RB is going to get dinged in the head most of the time.CollegeDoog said:Disagree. Even in college players suffer severe concussions, some diagnosed and others not. Especially when the players aren't being paid, head safety should be paramount. I'm sure you've seen how difficult it is for players who have suffered numerous concussions just to make it through the day. Some former players have committed suicide due to CTE. Helmet to helmet hits need to go.
I took some massive hits to the head when I was playing. Virtually all helmet contact doesn't cause problems, though. The brain can take an incredible pounding and still work fine. Not to make light of it, but the situation now is on the verge of being overblown.
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True, and I agree with a lot of what you said.ApostleofGrief said:
I think flagrant targeting to the head should be illegal, eg., shots on wide receivers. The problem is that there is helmet-to-helmet contact in football on every single play. The question is not if there is helmet-to-helmet contact but how it happens. Refs will call "helmet-to-helmet" if you tackle a QB or WR, but not if you tackle a running back. A RB is going to get dinged in the head most of the time.CollegeDoog said:Disagree. Even in college players suffer severe concussions, some diagnosed and others not. Especially when the players aren't being paid, head safety should be paramount. I'm sure you've seen how difficult it is for players who have suffered numerous concussions just to make it through the day. Some former players have committed suicide due to CTE. Helmet to helmet hits need to go.
I took some massive hits to the head when I was playing. Virtually all helmet contact doesn't cause problems, though. The brain can take an incredible pounding and still work fine. Not to make light of it, but the situation now is on the verge of being overblown.
Lineman hit helmet to helmet on nearly every play, but the impact is much lesser then a highlight hit or blindside block. I think the refs will use discretion on this rule. If a defensive player lowers his head or throws himself (two feet of the ground) into a defenseless player, ejection is warranted. -
Lets ban everything people do that might cause a injury.
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Head injuries are different hthMikeDamone said:Lets ban everything people do that might cause a injury.
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If anyone ever thought having multiple concussions might not cause long term damage they are a dumb ass.
I guess maybe things were different before I played sports growing up but I don't feel sorry for people 30 and under. Even then it's kind of a common sense thing. Gettkng hit in the head is not good for health. Are boxers going to sue the sanctioned federations they fought under because their brains are gone now too?
I agree they need to take launching forward with your helmet out of the game but the incedental stuff getting people ejected is stupid. -
Look, if a player has a concussion get him out of the game. Make flagrant targeting illegal. That I have no problem with.
I'm only saying that you aren't going to stop helmet-to-helmet hits unless you stop playing football and start playing soccer or rugby. Anybody who ever got in a three point stance in real, organized football (intramural doesn't count) knows helmet-to-helmet hitting is on every play. -
I like the rule, but I don't like the penalty. Just like how the NBA handles flagrant fouls, the NCAA needs to put the targeting into two categories. Targeting 1 and Targeting 2.AtomicDawg said:If anyone ever thought having multiple concussions might not cause long term damage they are a dumb ass.
I guess maybe things were different before I played sports growing up but I don't feel sorry for people 30 and under. Even then it's kind of a common sense thing. Gettkng hit in the head is not good for health. Are boxers going to sue the sanctioned federations they fought under because their brains are gone now too?
I agree they need to take launching forward with your helmet out of the game but the incedental stuff getting people ejected is stupid.
Targeting 1- Not blatant, more or less a quick reaction technical error on the part of the defender, not purposely inflicting severe harm above the shoulders. 15 yard penalty and out for the rest of the possession.
Targeting 2- You knew what the hell you were doing, you wanted to get on sports center, you tried to knock his head off. One game suspension possibly more depending on the severity and if you are a repeat offender.
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