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Half of meteorologists don’t believe in man-made global warming. American Meteorological Society

d2d
d2d Member Posts: 3,109
edited February 2015 in Tug Tavern
"The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming. Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed “liberal political views” were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views. The result suggests that members of professional scientific organizations have not been immune to influence by the political polarization on climate change that has affected politicians and the general public" Professor Neil Stenhouse, George Mason University.

journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1

dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2014

    50.9% to 45.3% for votes in the house = the people have spoken, time to overturn obamacare and impeach Obama.

    48% to 52% for human caused climate change = see, we told you that man made climate change is a hoax.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Daily caller? That's your source?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    I trust meteorologists over climate change scientists. That's what I do.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    2001400ex said:

    Daily caller? That's your source?

    You really are fucking stupid. The Daily Caller wrote an article about a report published in the Journal of The American Meteorological Society. The Report is linked first. I suggest you read it. I really doubt that you had time to read it between my post and yours.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    Don't attack Hondo's religion

    Three replies in a row is puppy territory
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Don't attack Hondo's religion

    Three replies in a row is puppy territory

    Don't attack puppy. Responding without ever saying anything is Race territory.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    d2d said:

    2001400ex said:

    Daily caller? That's your source?

    You really are fucking stupid. The Daily Caller wrote an article about a report published in the Journal of The American Meteorological Society. The Report is linked first. I suggest you read it. I really doubt that you had time to read it between my post and yours.
    I notice how you skip over my first response. ;-)
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    I've said this before but it would help if the scientists actually put a percentage on how much impact man has on climate change. If it's .3%, wgaf.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    And 2 more

    0 contribution. Still.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited March 2015
    d2d said:

    "The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming. Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed “liberal political views” were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views. The result suggests that members of professional scientific organizations have not been immune to influence by the political polarization on climate change that has affected politicians and the general public" Professor Neil Stenhouse, George Mason University.

    journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1

    dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/

    That's not what the study found. Your Daily Caller article is LYING.

    image

    Only 4 percent of respondents to the study said that global warming is not happening.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Hondo for the easy win.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    AZDuck said:

    d2d said:

    "The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming. Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed “liberal political views” were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views. The result suggests that members of professional scientific organizations have not been immune to influence by the political polarization on climate change that has affected politicians and the general public" Professor Neil Stenhouse, George Mason University.

    journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1

    dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/

    That's not what the study found. Your Daily Caller article is LYING.

    image

    Only 4 percent of respondents to the study said that global warming is not happening.
    Correct, but what Death is citing is different than what you're citing. He's specifically talking about the man-made part, which 52% agree is mostly man-made, although you should also include the 11% that there is some evidence that it is human but not enough evidence overall to differentiate source.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    AZDuck said:

    d2d said:

    "The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming. Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed “liberal political views” were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views. The result suggests that members of professional scientific organizations have not been immune to influence by the political polarization on climate change that has affected politicians and the general public" Professor Neil Stenhouse, George Mason University.

    journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/BAMS-D-13-00091.1

    dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/poll-nearly-half-of-meteorologists-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/

    That's not what the study found. Your Daily Caller article is LYING.

    image

    Only 4 percent of respondents to the study said that global warming is not happening.
    Correct, but what Death is citing is different than what you're citing. He's specifically talking about the man-made part, which 52% agree is mostly man-made, although you should also include the 11% that there is some evidence that it is human but not enough evidence overall to differentiate source.
    Actually, 52 plus 10 for half, 5 for some, 11 down in the insufficient. And we are at 78% that think humans are at least partially responsible. And 96% say that the earth is warmer regardless of the reason.

    But again, death is smarter than people who study this for a living. Not to mention that his news source is lying to him.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Does it embarrass you that you get your news from comics?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,116 Standard Supporter
    Half of all meteorologists are blonde bimbos with fake boobs, too. The other half are brunettes with fake boobs.


    http://www.popcrunch.com/10-hottest-weather-girls-ever/
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Half of all meteorologists are blonde bimbos with fake boobs, too. The other half are brunettes with fake boobs.


    http://www.popcrunch.com/10-hottest-weather-girls-ever/

    And they can't predict the weather, their job, better than random chance. I don't give a fuck what they think, either way.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    So we should listen to Steve Pool and Matt Zuffino when it comes to the global climate?

    lol

    Fuck off.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,116 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    So we should listen to Steve Pool and Matt Zuffino when it comes to the global climate?

    lol

    Fuck off.

    Steve Pool does not have fake boobs. So, no.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Even if the vast majority of everyone who actually studies this for a living is wrong (cause clearly you are smarter than then). The worst case scenario is we have a cleaner environment. I think it's a win win. But you too busy slurping on Republican nut sack.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    2001400ex said:

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Even if the vast majority of everyone who actually studies this for a living is wrong (cause clearly you are smarter than then). The worst case scenario is we have a cleaner environment. I think it's a win win. But you too busy slurping on Republican nut sack.
    Sounds grand, but FS...although not as FS as your lame 'I Love Lamp' equivalent you ended the Antarctica thread with (or pretty much anything you typed in that thread...)

    Two of many examples...CO2 capture and batteries. CO2 capture is a technology the govt spends a ton of money on and it trying to push via CO2 credits. Does it make sense to spend more than 1/3 of the power output of an electrical plant to "capture" the CO2 and pump it really far into the ground? That means you burn up 1/3 more hydrocarbons, and have to build 1/3 more power plants. FS. As for batteries, its the new "environmental car", but if you look at the overall energy efficiency vs. gasoline it can't come close to matching it (and doesn't even match the carbon efficiency in most places...), and on top of that you start manufacturing a boatload of batteries that have all sorts of toxic chemicals in them. FS.

    Both "solutions" resulting in a "cleaner environment" and both FS...


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Even if the vast majority of everyone who actually studies this for a living is wrong (cause clearly you are smarter than then). The worst case scenario is we have a cleaner environment. I think it's a win win. But you too busy slurping on Republican nut sack.
    Sounds grand, but FS...although not as FS as your lame 'I Love Lamp' equivalent you ended the Antarctica thread with (or pretty much anything you typed in that thread...)

    Two of many examples...CO2 capture and batteries. CO2 capture is a technology the govt spends a ton of money on and it trying to push via CO2 credits. Does it make sense to spend more than 1/3 of the power output of an electrical plant to "capture" the CO2 and pump it really far into the ground? That means you burn up 1/3 more hydrocarbons, and have to build 1/3 more power plants. FS. As for batteries, its the new "environmental car", but if you look at the overall energy efficiency vs. gasoline it can't come close to matching it (and doesn't even match the carbon efficiency in most places...), and on top of that you start manufacturing a boatload of batteries that have all sorts of toxic chemicals in them. FS.

    Both "solutions" resulting in a "cleaner environment" and both FS...


    Gas is the most efficient so we shouldn't look for alternatives. Great thinking there genius. What do you think about ethanol, otherwise known as the plan the conservatives pushed when they were in power. That worked out well,, right?

    Now that I'm done giving you shit. The reality is, we (everyone, not just America) need to clean up our act. I wish we'd push China and India to clean their shit because that's where a ton of the emissions originate. Not to mention the other pollution there.

    Either way, it's silly to give in to corporate wishes to pollute as much as they want.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited March 2015

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Yeah.

    I'm going to need you to predict the weather more than 3 days out before I believe your 50 year prediction.

    Turns out, weather is pretty complex.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dflea said:

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Yeah.

    I'm going to need you to predict the weather more than 3 days out before I believe your 50 year prediction.

    Turns out, weather is pretty complex.

    Learn the difference between climate and weather.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    The weather is a function of the same system that drives the climate, you fuckin twat. If the system was predictable, the weather wsould be, too.

    Shut your cunt.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    dflea said:

    The weather is a function of the same system that drives the climate, you fuckin twat. If the system was predictable, the weather wsould be, too.

    Shut your cunt.

    You mad bro?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,099 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Even if the vast majority of everyone who actually studies this for a living is wrong (cause clearly you are smarter than then). The worst case scenario is we have a cleaner environment. I think it's a win win. But you too busy slurping on Republican nut sack.
    You're too stupid to post here. I didn't say right or wrong. I said what effect and what is the cost to make a difference.

    Of course you don't address that. You cant. No one has. The only one parroting a party line is you.

    The worst case scenario is a bunch of stupid laws that punish the poor and middle so your rich masters can tell people how to live when they have no intent to practice what they preach.

    We have the cleanest environment. And a great way of life. And a bunch of jackasses claiming the sky is falling

    Put up or shut up. Specifics.

    You won't even give up your ATV but you're happy to tell others how to live

    Fuck off
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    We shouldn't listen to anyone until they can tell what man's role is and what if anything would actually make a difference and what it would involve cost wise.

    Until then it's all bullshit and no one wants to give any of their shit up.

    Fucked up light bulbs aren't the answer

    Fuck off

    Even if the vast majority of everyone who actually studies this for a living is wrong (cause clearly you are smarter than then). The worst case scenario is we have a cleaner environment. I think it's a win win. But you too busy slurping on Republican nut sack.
    Sounds grand, but FS...although not as FS as your lame 'I Love Lamp' equivalent you ended the Antarctica thread with (or pretty much anything you typed in that thread...)

    Two of many examples...CO2 capture and batteries. CO2 capture is a technology the govt spends a ton of money on and it trying to push via CO2 credits. Does it make sense to spend more than 1/3 of the power output of an electrical plant to "capture" the CO2 and pump it really far into the ground? That means you burn up 1/3 more hydrocarbons, and have to build 1/3 more power plants. FS. As for batteries, its the new "environmental car", but if you look at the overall energy efficiency vs. gasoline it can't come close to matching it (and doesn't even match the carbon efficiency in most places...), and on top of that you start manufacturing a boatload of batteries that have all sorts of toxic chemicals in them. FS.

    Both "solutions" resulting in a "cleaner environment" and both FS...


    Gas is the most efficient so we shouldn't look for alternatives. Great thinking there genius. What do you think about ethanol, otherwise known as the plan the conservatives pushed when they were in power. That worked out well,, right?

    Now that I'm done giving you shit. The reality is, we (everyone, not just America) need to clean up our act. I wish we'd push China and India to clean their shit because that's where a ton of the emissions originate. Not to mention the other pollution there.

    Either way, it's silly to give in to corporate wishes to pollute as much as they want.
    Because China gives a fuck what the western world has to say. They are too busy bathing themselves in our debt to give a shit.

    Walking through Calcutta is like tiptoeing a dog run that hasn't been poop scooped in 30 years. They don't give a shit either.