Thoughts on 2015 LBs
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Timu may not have been great, but there should be at least a short term drop off.
Anybody that was in the addition by subtraction camp re Keith Price last year should have learned their lesson on this -
I think our lack of a great BUCK linebacker combined our lack of D Lineman next year could have us playing more 4-3. If that's the case then I think you see Feeney, Bierria and Littleton as our LBs. We need a true 3-4 nose tackle for last years defense to be effective and Qualls is no Danny Shelton. Maybe Vita Vea but we have no idea what to expect from him. Littleton is nowhere near Kikaha as far as pass rushing or being able to hold the edge. I think we substitute a mediocre BUCK like Littleton for a bigger body on a lot of snaps and bring a DB up into the box. We just don't really have a great hybrid LB/DL player but we might have a hybrid DB/LB in a guy like Joyner or Jo Jo McIntosh.
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Timu wasn't good. The addition by subtraction phrase applies to him.
KP1 was a record setting QB at UW. Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be missed deserves the rusty cheese grater treatment.
Also, I'm as big of a Sacramento homer there is, but Shaq as a LB is overrated. He had a far greater impact on the offensive side of the ball. His career would be defined differently if he played RB all along. -
I very much agree with both of these statements.Doogles said:KP1 was a record setting QB at UW. Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be missed deserves the rusty cheese grater treatment.
Also, I'm as big of a Sacramento homer there is, but Shaq as a LB is overrated. He had a far greater impact on the offensive side of the ball. His career would be defined differently if he played RB all along. -
Price was such a good QB that he didn't even make it to training camp in the NFL. I stupidly thought Miles would play at a similar level, mainly because of his running. He was a big upgrade over Miles, but he's overrated by many on this board. He's a decent QB that can win with talent around him.Doogles said:Timu wasn't good. The addition by subtraction phrase applies to him.
KP1 was a record setting QB at UW. Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be missed deserves the rusty cheese grater treatment.
Also, I'm as big of a Sacramento homer there is, but Shaq as a LB is overrated. He had a far greater impact on the offensive side of the ball. His career would be defined differently if he played RB all along.
A better OL would have helped, but he was an average Pac 12 QB. Good passer rating, but he was also 7th in QBR his senior year and one good game in three years against a good opponent. We can play the hypothetical what ifs when it comes to the OL and Sark, but his play at UW was about league average.
Kim and Hugh Millen's unwarranted bashing of Price to prop up Sark and Locker has inflated his worth imo. -
I look at Price and Timu in a similar light ...
Both are somewhere between average and above average PAC players at their positions ...
Neither are guys that will be NFL players ...
Neither are guys that are going to be central players on PAC caliber championship teams ...
Price COULD QB a team to a PAC championship, but the surrounding cast would have needed to be fairly dominant ...
Likewise, Timu could be part of a PAC caliber winning defense ... but he needed guys like Shelton, Kikaha, Shaq, etc around him where he became more of an ancillary player.
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Eric Crouch won a heisman and never played in the league. Price was the best quarterback here since Pickett, enough road doogin.RoadDawg55 said:
Price was such a good QB that he didn't even make it to training camp in the NFL. I stupidly thought Miles would play at a similar level, mainly because of his running. He was a big upgrade over Miles, but he's overrated by many on this board. He's a decent QB that can win with talent around him.Doogles said:Timu wasn't good. The addition by subtraction phrase applies to him.
KP1 was a record setting QB at UW. Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be missed deserves the rusty cheese grater treatment.
Also, I'm as big of a Sacramento homer there is, but Shaq as a LB is overrated. He had a far greater impact on the offensive side of the ball. His career would be defined differently if he played RB all along.
A better OL would have helped, but he was an average Pac 12 QB. Good passer rating, but he was also 7th in QBR his senior year and one good game in three years against a good opponent. We can play the hypothetical what ifs when it comes to the OL and Sark, but his play at UW was about league average.
Kim and Hugh Millen's unwarranted bashing of Price to prop up Sark and Locker has inflated his worth imo. -
Eric Crouch was an option QB. Next you will be telling me that Tommy Fraizer was pretty good.doogsinparadise said:
Eric Crouch won a heisman and never played in the league. Price was the best quarterback here since Pickett, enough road doogin.RoadDawg55 said:
Price was such a good QB that he didn't even make it to training camp in the NFL. I stupidly thought Miles would play at a similar level, mainly because of his running. He was a big upgrade over Miles, but he's overrated by many on this board. He's a decent QB that can win with talent around him.Doogles said:Timu wasn't good. The addition by subtraction phrase applies to him.
KP1 was a record setting QB at UW. Anyone who thought he wasn't going to be missed deserves the rusty cheese grater treatment.
Also, I'm as big of a Sacramento homer there is, but Shaq as a LB is overrated. He had a far greater impact on the offensive side of the ball. His career would be defined differently if he played RB all along.
A better OL would have helped, but he was an average Pac 12 QB. Good passer rating, but he was also 7th in QBR his senior year and one good game in three years against a good opponent. We can play the hypothetical what ifs when it comes to the OL and Sark, but his play at UW was about league average.
Kim and Hugh Millen's unwarranted bashing of Price to prop up Sark and Locker has inflated his worth imo.
I agree that Price was the best since Picket. That doesn't mean he was a really good QB. He wasn't. He put up stats in the pass happy era and threw a killer bubble screen. -
Keith Price was plenty productive. Not a player who is going to put the team on his back and single-handedly win games but a slightly above average QB(his sophomore and senior seasons) who benefited from having two of the best running backs to come through our program in god knows how long.
QB is the one position on the field where the difference between average and below average can make or break your season and I think with Keith Price we win another 2-3 games and the 2014 season looks completely different. -
Hi TimerToddTurnerLIVES said:Keith Price was plenty productive. Not a player who is going to put the team on his back and single-handedly win games but a slightly above average QB(his sophomore and senior seasons) who benefited from having two of the best running backs to come through our program in god knows how long.
QB is the one position on the field where the difference between average and below average can make or break your season and I think with Keith Price we win another 2-3 games and the 2014 season looks completely different.
