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Comparing NFL and high school 40-yard dash times: A horrifying revelation

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
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sbnation.com/college-football/2013/3/1/4038740/2013-nfl-combine-high-school-40-yard-dash-times
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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    Excellent article.

    Just another reason to give zero credence to Teen Boy Stalking websites like Dawgman.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,270
    edited February 2015
    You mean like Trufant?

    ;)
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    Can someone recalculate the results after removing the linemen? Then you might have something worthwhile.
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  • devildawg
    devildawg Member Posts: 67
    I've personally timed entire high schools teams in spring/fall camp...all hand held times

    Your lucky if you have a single kid that breaks 4.5 last year our starting RB was 4.65 and the fastest kid on the team,on Friday nights he was always one of the fastest players on the field

    I've never timed one of these 4.3 kids my self...you can watch these kids as soon as they hear 4.89 they walk over and whisper to their buddy's I got 4.6 and so it begins
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Hand time versus electronic time?

    Once a runner starts going, it takes a second for the timer to register and hit the button, especially if they're 40 yards away from the starting line.

    That and these camps might have 2 or 3 guys timing kids, and they take the best one.
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  • TTJ
    TTJ Member Posts: 4,827
    Is this the greatest article to ever appear on SBNation?
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    The article is a stuttering stanley of information. I get it. Hand timed high school kids appear faster than they are. Hardly groundbreaking news here.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam
    A lot of those kids never had a seriously timed 40 in high school. The ones who report 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, etc, with nothing in the hundredths place, are just estimated. Either they just said "about 4.5" or the scout service filled it in that way. Those shouldn't have been used as data points. An OL prospect with a 5 second 40 in his profile shouldn't be used as a data point when he runs a 5.26 at the combine. Obviously he never gave a fuck about his 40 time and just told Fetters (or whoever filled out his profile) "5 seconds".

    Just a thought I had. It doesn't refute the article. Then again that is kind of a "water is wet" article anyways.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,042
    In other breaking news...

    Blacks are faster than whites. And jump higher.


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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    PurpleThrobber said:

    In other breaking news...

    Blacks are faster than whites. And jump higher.


    Blatant racism is not condoned around here. The next thing you know you're going to go way over the top and suggest Cfett needs Jenny Craig.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    FreeChavez said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    In other breaking news...

    Blacks are faster than whites. And jump higher.


    Blatant racism is not condoned around here. The next thing you know you're going to go way over the top and suggest Cfett needs Jenny Craig to jump off the Aurora bridge.
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  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    Swaye said:

    FreeChavez said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    In other breaking news...

    Blacks are faster than whites. And jump higher.


    Blatant racism is not condoned around here. The next thing you know you're going to go way over the top and suggest Cfett needs Jenny Craig to jump off the Aurora bridge.
    He should probably just jump off the I-5 ship canal bridge, he wouldn't be able to get over the railing on the 99.

    Or he could just light himself on fire.
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  • gmo
    gmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,849 Founders Club
    two way more important attributes/questions of athletes than 40 times, well documented by renowned experts in the field:

    1) how are their hips?
    2) bathroom or fridge?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    CheersWestDawg said:

    Excellent article.

    Just another reason to give zero credence to Teen Boy Stalking websites like Dawgman.

    I agree, but I don't blame the dawgman like sites for the exaggerated times. It's what the kids do, thinking it will help them. They add a couple inches, add 10-20 pounds, and take .2-.4 off of their 40 times. Scout and Rivals just list what the kid or their high school coach tells them.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,042
    edited February 2015
    FreeChavez said:

    PurpleThrobber said:

    In other breaking news...

    Blacks are faster than whites. And jump higher.


    Blatant racism is not condoned around here. The next thing you know you're going to go way over the top and suggest Cfett needs Jenny Craig.
    I SAID NO FATTY CRAP!

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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadDawg55 said:

    CheersWestDawg said:

    Excellent article.

    Just another reason to give zero credence to Teen Boy Stalking websites like Dawgman.

    I agree, but I don't blame the dawgman like sites for the exaggerated times. It's what the kids do, thinking it will help them. They add a couple inches, add 10-20 pounds, and take .2-.4 off of their 40 times. Scout and Rivals just list what the kid or their high school coach tells them.
    This would've sufficed.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    In this thread: water is wet.
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  • CMBTvet05
    CMBTvet05 Member Posts: 8
    edited February 2015
    I can actually understand how guys on the OL get slower from high school to NFL. When you put on 40+ pounds its not hard to believe that comes at a price
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    CMBTvet05 said:

    I can actually understand how guys on the OL get slower from high school to NFL. When you put on 40+ pounds its not hard to believe that comes at a price

    News Flash, turbo. The HS 40 times are BS. Not a big fan of ripping new poasters, but when it's this FS, I can't help myself.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    HuskyInAZ said:

    CMBTvet05 said:

    I can actually understand how guys on the OL get slower from high school to NFL. When you put on 40+ pounds its not hard to believe that comes at a price

    News Flash, turbo. The HS 40 times are BS. Not a big fan of ripping new poasters, but when it's this FS, I can't help myself.
    The HS times are BS AND lineman who put on 40 pounds lose a little speed.

    'Bundance.

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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    CMBTvet05 said:

    I can actually understand how guys on the OL get slower from high school to NFL. When you put on 40+ pounds its not hard to believe that comes at a price

    News Flash, turbo. The HS 40 times are BS. Not a big fan of ripping new poasters, but when it's this FS, I can't help myself.
    The HS times are BS AND lineman who put on 40 pounds lose a little speed.

    'Bundance.

    From the list, the average overstatement of 40 times is for LBs at .18 seconds. The average for OL is .12 seconds, the same as for RBs. The Safety position is nipping at their heels, with an overstatement of .11 seconds. Are the LBs, RBs and Safeties putting on 40 pounds as well?

    This is all about BS hand-timed 40s and exaggerations. I'm pretty sure as a rule, kids get faster, not slower, in their 18-23 year old timeframe.

    Abundance? Not so much.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    HuskyInAZ said:

    dnc said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    CMBTvet05 said:

    I can actually understand how guys on the OL get slower from high school to NFL. When you put on 40+ pounds its not hard to believe that comes at a price

    News Flash, turbo. The HS 40 times are BS. Not a big fan of ripping new poasters, but when it's this FS, I can't help myself.
    The HS times are BS AND lineman who put on 40 pounds lose a little speed.

    'Bundance.

    From the list, the average overstatement of 40 times is for LBs at .18 seconds. The average for OL is .12 seconds, the same as for RBs. The Safety position is nipping at their heels, with an overstatement of .11 seconds. Are the LBs, RBs and Safeties putting on 40 pounds as well?

    This is all about BS hand-timed 40s and exaggerations. I'm pretty sure as a rule, kids get faster, not slower, in their 18-23 year old timeframe.

    Abundance? Not so much.
    but still

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