BOOM - Vernon Adams To Oregon

RoadDawg55 said:

I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.

Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.

Doogles said:

It's complete dooging to call this move by Helf a failure. Adams can ball and immediately helps Oregon. In the limited snaps I saw Lockie play, he was clearly not ready for primetime and shitting his pants. I don't know anything about that Mahalak guy but Adams can make throws in tight windows. Oregon's offense usually has someone streaking downfield open by 10 yards.

True he is not as good of a runner as Mariota, but he is good enough. If anything it means more touches for Freeman--who is incredible--Tyner, and whatever 5 star Running Back they have riding pine over there.

Darren Thomas wasn't very fast either. Vernon Adams is like Darren Thomas, but more lethal through he air. If there was one area where Mariota lacked, it was throwing in tight windows. Adams gives you that, while it makes up some for the lost of Mariota's feet, there's never going to be another Mariota at Oregon for atleast the next 20 years. Mariota is a once in a generation quarterback for most schools.

Adams is the best that Oregon could have done right now. Oregon hasn't developed QB poorly as much as a lot of their future options transferred elsewhere when they realized how great Mariota was. Brain Bennett wasn't great, but he was serviceable. He won Oregon a few games while Darren Thomas was injured, including a nice road win at UCLA.

Jake Rodriguez then transferred. Now he wasn't as good as Bennett, and was actually behind Locke on the depth chart, but he has much better measurables and thus a higher ceiling. Many thought he would actually overtake Locke if he stayed.

There are disadvantages to having a solidified heisman QB or RBs, as some of the quality depth behind them won't stay because they can get playing time somewhere else. Don't be surprised if Oregon loses some high quality backs next year, because who wants to be 4th in line behind Freeman, Tyner, and Griffin? That's also not counting Lovette, Merritt, or Tony James who redshirted last year. I'm sure one or two will play receiver, but nonetheless.......

BallSacked said:

RoadDawg55 said:

I think there are valid questions with Adams, but saying this means the Duck's have failed at QB development is wishful thinking. Lockie likely sucks. Mahallak is going to be a redshirt freshman coming off an injury and Waller will be a true freshman and is considered raw by the TBSers. Adams is a bridge guy for a team that wants to win another Pac 12 title instead of going through growing pains with a new QB. Great pick up for Oregon.

Adams is a good pickup, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't show up in Eugene until July, he still has to graduate from EWU. Oregon losses a bunch of OLs and defenders. I think they have 6 returners on both sides. I think they'll still be good, but 10-2 is their ceiling in my opinion with Losses @Sparty and @Stanford. I don't think this Duck team is good enough to simply blow the doors off of teams like ASU, SC or UW, either. Just looking at the talent I think this may be the weakest Duck team since some of Chip's earliest versions, especially on defense.

I think ASU, UCLA, AZ, and USC are huge threats to Oregon next year. My problem with Stanford is that now without Montgomery, they have absolutely nobody on the outside that can threaten teams. They also still lack the bruising tailback needed in their system, maybe a year from now it will be different, but I'm thinking of next year only. UW's offense isn't scaring anybody, Kal is still a year away from challenging the upper North, and WSU and OSU are still WSU and OSU. Oregon is making the PAC 12 title game next year, but the champ could definitely come from the South.