"5.6% Unemployment A GIANT LIE." Gallup CEO
Right now, we're hearing much celebrating from the media, the White House and Wall Street about how unemployment is "down" to 5.6%. The cheerleading for this number is deafening. The media loves a comeback story, the White House wants to score political points and Wall Street would like you to stay in the market.
None of them will tell you this: If you, a family member or anyone is unemployed and has subsequently given up on finding a job -- if you are so hopelessly out of work that you've stopped looking over the past four weeks -- the Department of Labor doesn't count you as unemployed. That's right. While you are as unemployed as one can possibly be, and tragically may never find work again, you are not counted in the figure we see relentlessly in the news -- currently 5.6%. Right now, as many as 30 million Americans are either out of work or severely underemployed. Trust me, the vast majority of them aren't throwing parties to toast "falling" unemployment.
There's another reason why the official rate is misleading. Say you're an out-of-work engineer or healthcare worker or construction worker or retail manager: If you perform a minimum of one hour of work in a week and are paid at least $20 -- maybe someone pays you to mow their lawn -- you're not officially counted as unemployed in the much-reported 5.6%. Few Americans know this.
gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
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Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts -
What you're saying is true now, and it was also true under previous Presidents. Unemployment has been undercounted in the United States for a while, and the plunge in employment predates Obama - although he certainly is responsible for the lack in upturn.
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Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts -
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
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That graph sure took a dive after 08
But it's never Obama. -
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
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dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
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This is Kane Hall shit. Or whatever Creepercane said
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Please explain your understanding of how obamacare is killing full time employment. In your discussion, please keep in mind what fill time equivalent actually means.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem. -
Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
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I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
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Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
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AZDuck said:
What you're saying is true now, and it was also true under previous Presidents. Unemployment has been undercounted in the United States for a while, and the plunge in employment predates Obama - although he certainly is responsible for the lack in upturn.
Weird, the chart of government employment coincides directly with your chart. So let's recap. Republicans chant to cut government spending for 6 years. Government spending is cut, which reduces jobs. Now, Republicans are screaming about unemployment and workforce participation.
So "do this, do this, do this" it happens, now it's "your fault, your fault, your fault". Awesome. -
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
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You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
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LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
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If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff... -
I don't have a party and the issue in Greece was that the government controls too much of the economy hence the crash when they could no longer extort enough taxes to support the utopian society they had built with other people's money. The Germans had to bail them out.2001400ex said:
LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
It's happening in Brazil and Venezuela now, a couple of countries your dear leader who isn't responsible for anything admires and would like to be like.
But still.... the next good point you make without stepping all over you tiny dick will be the first. You're getting schooled by a drug addicted psychopath.
Good effort good job -
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid? -
Nice rant. But if we did the same austerity measures here, we'd have the same issue. Think about it, let's just cut government jobs and our programs to pay for housing and food for the poor. And cut taxes on the rich. Ohhh yeah, almost forgot, we need to increase military spending too.RaceBannon said:
I don't have a party and the issue in Greece was that the government controls too much of the economy hence the crash when they could no longer extort enough taxes to support the utopian society they had built with other people's money. The Germans had to bail them out.2001400ex said:
LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
It's happening in Brazil and Venezuela now, a couple of countries your dear leader who isn't responsible for anything admires and would like to be like.
But still.... the next good point you make without stepping all over you tiny dick will be the first. You're getting schooled by a drug addicted psychopath.
Good effort good job
What could go wrong there? -
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid? -
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid? -
It wasn't a rant. And you missed the point2001400ex said:
Nice rant. But if we did the same austerity measures here, we'd have the same issue. Think about it, let's just cut government jobs and our programs to pay for housing and food for the poor. And cut taxes on the rich. Ohhh yeah, almost forgot, we need to increase military spending too.RaceBannon said:
I don't have a party and the issue in Greece was that the government controls too much of the economy hence the crash when they could no longer extort enough taxes to support the utopian society they had built with other people's money. The Germans had to bail them out.2001400ex said:
LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
It's happening in Brazil and Venezuela now, a couple of countries your dear leader who isn't responsible for anything admires and would like to be like.
But still.... the next good point you make without stepping all over you tiny dick will be the first. You're getting schooled by a drug addicted psychopath.
Good effort good job
What could go wrong there?
Shocking -
If you were to make a point, I might not miss it.RaceBannon said:
It wasn't a rant. And you missed the point2001400ex said:
Nice rant. But if we did the same austerity measures here, we'd have the same issue. Think about it, let's just cut government jobs and our programs to pay for housing and food for the poor. And cut taxes on the rich. Ohhh yeah, almost forgot, we need to increase military spending too.RaceBannon said:
I don't have a party and the issue in Greece was that the government controls too much of the economy hence the crash when they could no longer extort enough taxes to support the utopian society they had built with other people's money. The Germans had to bail them out.2001400ex said:
LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
It's happening in Brazil and Venezuela now, a couple of countries your dear leader who isn't responsible for anything admires and would like to be like.
But still.... the next good point you make without stepping all over you tiny dick will be the first. You're getting schooled by a drug addicted psychopath.
Good effort good job
What could go wrong there?
Shocking -
Disagree2001400ex said:
If you were to make a point, I might not miss it.RaceBannon said:
It wasn't a rant. And you missed the point2001400ex said:
Nice rant. But if we did the same austerity measures here, we'd have the same issue. Think about it, let's just cut government jobs and our programs to pay for housing and food for the poor. And cut taxes on the rich. Ohhh yeah, almost forgot, we need to increase military spending too.RaceBannon said:
I don't have a party and the issue in Greece was that the government controls too much of the economy hence the crash when they could no longer extort enough taxes to support the utopian society they had built with other people's money. The Germans had to bail them out.2001400ex said:
LOL well race, we could be like Greece. If we followed your party's austerity measures.RaceBannon said:
You sound bitter2001400ex said:
Except I have the actual bill to support my contention. You have the ramblings of a drug addicted psychopath.RaceBannon said:
Ironic2001400ex said:
I just think it's funny when people repeat bullshit as fact when they have no idea what they are talking about.sarktastic said:Why, do you need a term paper written for you?
"But the terms of the bailout were so severe that Greek living standards plunged. Formerly, middle-class Greeks were forced to beg and live without heat. Unemployment surged to 25 percent, and – this is key – youth unemployment reached 60 percent (both figures have dropped only slightly in the last four years). Despite large cutbacks in public spending, services and workers, Greece’s economy and debt problems have gotten worse."
It's happening in Brazil and Venezuela now, a couple of countries your dear leader who isn't responsible for anything admires and would like to be like.
But still.... the next good point you make without stepping all over you tiny dick will be the first. You're getting schooled by a drug addicted psychopath.
Good effort good job
What could go wrong there?
Shocking -
Merit based hiring, how does it work?RaceBannon said:
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid? -
PressingThomasFremont said:
Merit based hiring, how does it work?RaceBannon said:
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid?
NYBE
TL;DR -
Translation "I'm a dumb fuck, but I like to pretend I'm a liberal pretending to be a conservative. Really I'm just an HHB so y'all better recognize."RaceBannon said:
PressingThomasFremont said:
Merit based hiring, how does it work?RaceBannon said:
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid?
NYBE
TL;DR -
You sound hurt2001400ex said:
Translation "I'm a dumb fuck, but I like to pretend I'm a liberal pretending to be a conservative. Really I'm just an HHB so y'all better recognize."RaceBannon said:
PressingThomasFremont said:
Merit based hiring, how does it work?RaceBannon said:
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid?
NYBE
TL;DR -
LOL yes your " disagree " comment was pretty hurtful. Not to mention insightful.RaceBannon said:
You sound hurt2001400ex said:
Translation "I'm a dumb fuck, but I like to pretend I'm a liberal pretending to be a conservative. Really I'm just an HHB so y'all better recognize."RaceBannon said:
PressingThomasFremont said:
Merit based hiring, how does it work?RaceBannon said:
So adding millions and making them legal will raise wages?ThomasFremont said:
Sounds like a good reason to document them and enforce labor standards equally.RaceBannon said:
Or work in the construction tradesThomasFremont said:
If more Americans wanted to mow lawns, build houses, clean houses, or work in restaurant kitchens, the demand for illegal labor wouldn't exist.d2d said:
The "FUCKING SYSTEM"? Obamacare killing full time employment. Now, Obama just issued 5.5 million work visas to illegals to kill everything else. But it's NOT Obama's fault? It's either George Bush or the Fucking System. OBAMA IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM!dnc said:
The probrem isn't Obama, it's the system itself.d2d said:
Un-fucking-believable. Instead of addressing the problem in front of you, blame Bush? It never gets old, does it?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Since the 1980s the government has tweaked the way economic stats are reported. Its like grade inflation in school. Each administration has tweaked the reporting criteria a bit more than the last guy. Remember, the right wingers were bragging about how great the Bush economy was when it didn't jive with reality.
This link shows what unemployment would be if you calculated it the way it was done decades ago and included non-full time workers (i.e part time & those who dropped out of labor force).
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
Of course, if people understan what unemployment numbers actually count, it's not really a huge problem.
Basic Kane Hall stuff...
Oh wait they do but somehow millions of illegals drove down wages. Odd, Obama said they raise wages.
Can't figure it out - is he lying or stupid?
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