A troubling issue going forward.
This is where Sark's inability to develop interior DLs comes to bite us. Who is an effective replacement? Lagafuaina? Potoa'e? Josh Banks? Uhh...No.
Evan Hudson - a guy that played TE last year - is a starting defensive tackle. That should tell everyone how crappy our interior DL is playing.
Also, I focused on Corey Littleton. He NEVER got penetration. NEVER got pressure. And, he FREQUENTLY got knocked backward on running plays. Shirley played slightly better than Littleton, IMO, but he certainly wasn't a difference maker.
I'm VERY happy with the win, but no adequate backups on the interior D-line, and an inability to bring heat from the edge is a troubling issue going forward.
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Water is wet
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Littleton did terrible when he played last year as well. Him playing over Shirley last year was one of my biggest complaints about Wilcox. He must be performing well in practice, but I have yet to see him impress even once in a game.
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So no push up the middle?
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Still a good fucking point though...if there was one area last night that concerned me, it was our total lack of pressure and half our guys being on roller skates.Southerndawg said:Water is wet
I could not believe my eyes, but the OL looked totally different, not all conference, but capable, especially in pass pro - HOLY FUCK! When was the last time that happened?
QB play was great. Trust issued resolved for one game.
Where the fuck have those WRs been? Great play.
Sankey was Sankey. Boss, just like last year.
LB'ers all put a hat on the right guys and filled lanes.
DB's kept things in front of them and tackled aggressively.
Oh yeah, our fucking back 7 looks, for the first time in a decade, like somebody taught them how to fucking wrap up. Best tackling game I have seen by UW in literally years.
Even our special teams looked okay, and we finally showcased some team speed. Even that clusterfuck of a Coach Sark called what I thought was a super solid game.
Doog rant over....
But WTF is wrong with our DL? Well, we all know the answer. The guys Sark and his merry band of fuckwads (Holt, etc) recruited suck donkey balls. Literally in this case.
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Yeah, the only compaint I really have is that our DL got absolutely dominated by their guys. They got way too many 8 yard gains on draw plays and our DL was getting shoved backwards on almost every play
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Exactly. You did that in a much more TL;DR fashion than I could. So fuck off.bananasnblondes said:Yeah, the only compaint I really have is that our DL got absolutely dominated by their guys. They got way too many 8 yard gains on draw plays and our DL was getting shoved backwards on almost every play
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We got more pressure on them in the bowl game.
I haven't seen anything from Littleton ever. I think Mathis made one play. Will have to watch a replay but the DL was definitely the weak spot. I think Kikaha/Jamora did make a few key plays and was definitely a huge upgrade over Chricton.
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The issue is, we need another Shelton type in the middle NOW, and next year we will need TWO of them. Fuck. Maybe Mathis breaks out as a Freshman? Banks turns it on? I don't fucking know, but our DL is a train wreck.
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I'm hearing that WR Ross may also play DE.Swaye said:The issue is, we need another Shelton type in the middle NOW, and next year we will need TWO of them. Fuck. Maybe Mathis breaks out as a Freshman? Banks turns it on? I don't fucking know, but our DL is a train wreck.
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He is good for 4 wins after all. Make that shifty little fucker work for his locker space.
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Very little.MikeDamone said:So no push up the middle?
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Any word on heat from the edge?Passion said:
Very little.MikeDamone said:So no push up the middle?
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Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs. -
The D Line needs work. They'll be okay against speedy spread teams, but I'm worried they're going to get completely blown up when they face power. We'll see.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs.
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Of course I watched the game. What kind of question is that? I was there. Which I doubt you were.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs.
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I nerded out and watched DL/OL exclusively on 2nd replay. Hudson was double teamed quite often and held his own, IMO. Littleton had zero presence. The Artist was spotty in the first half but shined as the BSU OL fatigued.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
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Uhhh...I flew 3,000 miles to be there and lost my voice by the 3rd quarter.MikeDamone said:
Of course I watched the game. What kind of question is that? I was there. Which I doubt you were.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs.
The only crappy part of the day was my friend who took on responsibility for bringing beer to the tailgate. Friggin' coors light? Piss water. -
Regarding Shirley, on the 4th and 1 he may have been the difference maker. The TV announcers gave Shaq credit, but it was Shirley that crashed from the end and got Ajayi (sp?) by the legs.MisterEm said:
I nerded out and watched DL/OL exclusively on 2nd replay. Hudson was double teamed quite often and held his own, IMO. Littleton had zero presence. The Artist was spotty in the first half but shined as the BSU OL fatigued.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
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I saw the same thing from Shirley on the 4th down stopPassion said:
Regarding Shirley, on the 4th and 1 he may have been the difference maker. The TV announcers gave Shaq credit, but it was Shirley that crashed from the end and got Ajayi (sp?) by the legs.MisterEm said:
I nerded out and watched DL/OL exclusively on 2nd replay. Hudson was double teamed quite often and held his own, IMO. Littleton had zero presence. The Artist was spotty in the first half but shined as the BSU OL fatigued.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Make no mistake, I think our lines will be plundered by Stanford as they sat yesterday but I saw some improvement.
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'I was there' superiority guyPassion said:
Uhhh...I flew 3,000 miles to be there and lost my voice by the 3rd quarter.MikeDamone said:
Of course I watched the game. What kind of question is that? I was there. Which I doubt you were.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs.
The only crappy part of the day was my friend who took on responsibility for bringing beer to the tailgate. Friggin' coors light? Piss water. -
I've never seen Littleton do anything. Not sure why he's out there but Wilcox obviously knows what hes doing.
Jamora makes the line average. It would be a real weakness without him. He had 1 tfl, a pass breakup and several QB hurries where Southwick got the ball off in time.
On the 4th and 1 it looked like the entire DL got a decent push with Shirley getting the most.
Shaq also missed a tackle on 4th and 1 on Boise's FG drive that would have resulted in a 2 yard loss.
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Alcohol selection superiority guy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
'I was there' superiority guyPassion said:
Uhhh...I flew 3,000 miles to be there and lost my voice by the 3rd quarter.MikeDamone said:
Of course I watched the game. What kind of question is that? I was there. Which I doubt you were.Passion said:Did you watch the game? The artist formerly known as Jamora made his presence known a few times, but where was Littleton? Where was Hudson?
Granted the opposing QB got rid of the ball quickly, which neutralized our pass rush. But still, even when he hung onto the ball it seemed our DEs where waltzing with the boise's OTs.
The only crappy part of the day was my friend who took on responsibility for bringing beer to the tailgate. Friggin' coors light? Piss water.
