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I think you are thinking of Jamora. Common mistake.RoadDawg55 said:The Pepsi family, why the 4 for Kikaha? Very good freshman season before the injuries. Then he comes back a few years later and has 13.5 then 18.5 sacks. He's the all time leading sacker in UW History, made two all conference teams, and one All American.
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I should've given Banks a 1 instead of a 0.
I only saw he played in 3 games in 2013 with one of those being Idaho St. Didn't realize he played in 9 games in 2012. -
@RoadDawg55, I gave 2s off the criteria I stated: 'contributor' or bad starter. Sione was a border 1/2, but I thought in his last year he was a backup. It wasn't like you NEVER heard about him. I think, again it was a case of me only using 0s as 'never enrolled'.RoadDawg55 said:@Dennis_DeYoung, you were a little more generous giving out 2's then others. Potoa'e was a 1 to me. He played a little, but he never did anything and was pretty much a liability when he was on the field. Same with Hartvigson.
I think the 0 ranking is justified in that it's a total waste of resources to recruit a guy who will never come on campus. So if that happened, then I'm fine with @CokeGreaterThanPepsi's punishment of a 0. But once they enroll, the lowest they can be is a 1. Nick Montana was a 1.
But, if you are around all 4 years and play a good amount (contribute), you're a 2. Sione was close to that... but I think if Sione'd come in as a 3 star kid, people would've been nicer to him in the rankings. Once people think you're a bust, they de-value you.
I think that happened with Kasen, too.
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Gave Kikaha a 4 because he was pretty inconsistent until this year. He had GREAT games last year as a junior, but he also disappeared in games. I love Kikaha, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on the 5. Now I am kinda doubting myself, but whatever.
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What @CokeGreaterThanPepsi said. I really went back and forth on it with (Danny too), 4.5 would have been right. But he only had one season where I was fearing for the life of opposing QB. I also didn't really remember his FR season.
FWIW, we argued about including an option of 0 for guys that actually enrolled. I gave in to Poopsi and included it.
But I guess a 0 fits for guys like Gilliland/Enewally/Lavon Washington who did set foot on campus but were non-existant or got kicked off right away. -
Gilliland made a couple of plays at UW. He had a pick against Eastern in the terrible opener. He was a one because he left early, but I think he would have been a solid 2 if he had stayed. He didn't suck any worse worse than Timu, Fuimaono, and Kearse in 2010 and 2011.
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Here's my issue with this... with this criteria, a 5* player has to essentially be Steve Emtman. Once every 20 year player. By this kind of measure we might have had 3-4 5* players in the last 20 years... Dillon, Marques... who else? Jerramy Stevens?MrsPetersen said:What @CokeGreaterThanPepsi said. I really went back and forth on it with (Danny too), 4.5 would have been right. But he only had one season where I was fearing for the life of opposing QB. I also didn't really remember his FR season.
FWIW, we argued about including an option of 0 for guys that actually enrolled. I gave in to Poopsi and included it.
But I guess a 0 fits for guys like Gilliland/Enewally/Lavon Washington who did set foot on campus but were non-existant or got kicked off right away.
We're dividing up performance in to quintiles... Is he in the bottom 20% of players, the lower middle 20%, the middle 20%, upper middle 20% or the top 20%?
If you were an All-American at any point, you were a 5-star. Otherwise no one will be a 5-star outside of Hall Of Fame level players. I don't see how that really makes sense as an evaluation criteria.
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I don't know, I mean. Shelton is over a 4.5 which in my opinion is an ELITE player. Bishop, Hau'oli and Shaq were all over that (Desmond was 4.46). I think it worked fine for this study, which was determining contribution. Like I said, over 4.5 you are ELITE.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Here's my issue with this... with this criteria, a 5* player has to essentially be Steve Emtman. Once every 20 year player. By this kind of measure we might have had 3-4 5* players in the last 20 years... Dillon, Marques... who else? Jerramy Stevens?MrsPetersen said:What @CokeGreaterThanPepsi said. I really went back and forth on it with (Danny too), 4.5 would have been right. But he only had one season where I was fearing for the life of opposing QB. I also didn't really remember his FR season.
FWIW, we argued about including an option of 0 for guys that actually enrolled. I gave in to Poopsi and included it.
But I guess a 0 fits for guys like Gilliland/Enewally/Lavon Washington who did set foot on campus but were non-existant or got kicked off right away.
We're dividing up performance in to quintiles... Is he in the bottom 20% of players, the lower middle 20%, the middle 20%, upper middle 20% or the top 20%?
If you were an All-American at any point, you were a 5-star. Otherwise no one will be a 5-star outside of Hall Of Fame level players. I don't see how that really makes sense as an evaluation criteria.
If Shelton wasn't a 5, who the HOLY HECK is? -
I'm not arguing about averages; about specific ratings.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don't know, I mean. Shelton is over a 4.5 which in my opinion is an ELITE player. Bishop, Hau'oli and Shaq were all over that (Desmond was 4.46). I think it worked fine for this study, which was determining contribution. Like I said, over 4.5 you are ELITE.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Here's my issue with this... with this criteria, a 5* player has to essentially be Steve Emtman. Once every 20 year player. By this kind of measure we might have had 3-4 5* players in the last 20 years... Dillon, Marques... who else? Jerramy Stevens?MrsPetersen said:What @CokeGreaterThanPepsi said. I really went back and forth on it with (Danny too), 4.5 would have been right. But he only had one season where I was fearing for the life of opposing QB. I also didn't really remember his FR season.
FWIW, we argued about including an option of 0 for guys that actually enrolled. I gave in to Poopsi and included it.
But I guess a 0 fits for guys like Gilliland/Enewally/Lavon Washington who did set foot on campus but were non-existant or got kicked off right away.
We're dividing up performance in to quintiles... Is he in the bottom 20% of players, the lower middle 20%, the middle 20%, upper middle 20% or the top 20%?
If you were an All-American at any point, you were a 5-star. Otherwise no one will be a 5-star outside of Hall Of Fame level players. I don't see how that really makes sense as an evaluation criteria.
If Shelton wasn't a 5, who the HOLY HECK is? -
Gotcha... Still a lot of people gave those players 5 stars. And in fact, thinking more about it I probably would have given Danny and Hau'oli a 5th star if I could just because I agree that they were great players. Bishop was one vote shy of getting all 5's. Danny and Hau'oli got 23 5's. Shaq got 19. That's a lot of 5 stars people voted.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I'm not arguing about averages; about specific ratings.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don't know, I mean. Shelton is over a 4.5 which in my opinion is an ELITE player. Bishop, Hau'oli and Shaq were all over that (Desmond was 4.46). I think it worked fine for this study, which was determining contribution. Like I said, over 4.5 you are ELITE.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Here's my issue with this... with this criteria, a 5* player has to essentially be Steve Emtman. Once every 20 year player. By this kind of measure we might have had 3-4 5* players in the last 20 years... Dillon, Marques... who else? Jerramy Stevens?MrsPetersen said:What @CokeGreaterThanPepsi said. I really went back and forth on it with (Danny too), 4.5 would have been right. But he only had one season where I was fearing for the life of opposing QB. I also didn't really remember his FR season.
FWIW, we argued about including an option of 0 for guys that actually enrolled. I gave in to Poopsi and included it.
But I guess a 0 fits for guys like Gilliland/Enewally/Lavon Washington who did set foot on campus but were non-existant or got kicked off right away.
We're dividing up performance in to quintiles... Is he in the bottom 20% of players, the lower middle 20%, the middle 20%, upper middle 20% or the top 20%?
If you were an All-American at any point, you were a 5-star. Otherwise no one will be a 5-star outside of Hall Of Fame level players. I don't see how that really makes sense as an evaluation criteria.
If Shelton wasn't a 5, who the HOLY HECK is?
