Clay Matthews ...
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Russell was being a dumbass trying to make a hero play. After you throw an interception, you either run off the field or hug the referee.
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I chalked it up to some hard nosed football. Packer D came to play. Set the tone, if it takes 15 yards to make wilson think fuck it take a shot
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All for playing hard ... all for taking a shot at Wilson for trying to make tackles. No problem there.
Leading with the head and trying to deliver a KO shot is just flat out dirty ... no chance he makes that same play on another player that wasn't a QB. -
Pack fan here. It was a cheap shot. it looked like he was head huntin. Things move fast out there though. I think he was just trying to blow him up, like you would any player on the return team when you have the chance. One of Our D lineman had him engaged already. But Matthews had him lined up way before then. If you're gonna try to be a defender on returns, that's what happens.
But two things.
If it was Aaron Rodgers out there trying to pursue the ball carrier, one if not more of the Hawks would have destroyed him.
And if I was in your shoes during that reverse scenario, with Arod getting blown up, I would have felt the same way as you.
Cm3 doesn't have a lot of dirty plays on tape through his career. There were also 2 other blow ups on the same play. It's the nature of a INT play when the returner cuts back.
But take heart, the 4th interceptor mistook the 5 minute mark for the 1 minute mark and laid down, like he won the game.
I Had a strong feeling the Pack were fucked when they kicked 2 FG's in the 1st quarter instead of playing to win. Felt the same way at the half. But when Burnett laid down on that INT with 5 minutes left, I knew the goose was cooked.
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I'm perfectly fine with the QB or any player getting blown up in those situations on legal hits ... absolutely no problem. It's part of the game.
You can't talk about being tough on head hits and then on plays like that just give 15 yard penalties as a punishment. In a game like this, you'd give up 15 yards easily to knock the other QB loopy.
It's one of the few areas where I think college does have it right in that if you are clearly targeting an opponent's head you are ejected from the game. I do think that they take it a little too far and eject guys for football plays ... but I totally get erring on the conservative side given what we are finding to be the obvious health issues with shots to the head and concussions. Does a player like Matthews (or anybody else in that situation) make the same kind of play if they know that if they get it wrong it turns into a trip to the shower?
I have no problem with the GB player on the 4th INT going to a knee. The reality is that the only way that the Packers lose there is to do just about everything wrong from there on out.
I agree with you that not finishing some of those first half gift scores from the Hawks really hurt the Packers. I also think that as the game progressed, it became very clear that Rodgers was really hurting and it made it very difficult for him to drive the ball with any kind of effectiveness. -
We all would have hooked out if Wagner lit up Rodgers like that.
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I would have loved it. I hope it happens to Brady in the Super Bowl.Gladstone said:We all would have hooked out if Wagner lit up Rodgers like that.
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Brady is going to get the ultimate super star treatment in the Super Bowl. (tinfoil hat on) If the Hawks hit him like that, half the Hawks D will get ejected. (tinfoil hat off)RoadDawg55 said:
I would have loved it. I hope it happens to Brady in the Super Bowl.Gladstone said:We all would have hooked out if Wagner lit up Rodgers like that.
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Whatever. He was playing fucking football. If your QB is trying to make a play then smear the queer is on in full effect.
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Glad to see some redemption in this thread. There was a lot of hurt ginage in the game thread. You get a shot at the other guy's QB, you take it. Part of the game.
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Puffy ginage?GrundleStiltzkin said:Glad to see some redemption in this thread. There was a lot of hurt ginage in the game thread. You get a shot at the other guy's QB, you take it. Part of the game.
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I hate that cunt Clay Matthews too but as Gladstone said I hope Wagner does it to Brady and ends his career in the Super Bowl.
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Our?salemcoog said:
Pack fan here. It was a cheap shot. it looked like he was head huntin. Things move fast out there though. I think he was just trying to blow him up, like you would any player on the return team when you have the chance. One of Our D lineman had him engaged already. But Matthews had him lined up way before then. If you're gonna try to be a defender on returns, that's what happens.
But two things.
If it was Aaron Rodgers out there trying to pursue the ball carrier, one if not more of the Hawks would have destroyed him.
And if I was in your shoes during that reverse scenario, with Arod getting blown up, I would have felt the same way as you.
Cm3 doesn't have a lot of dirty plays on tape through his career. There were also 2 other blow ups on the same play. It's the nature of a INT play when the returner cuts back.
But take heart, the 4th interceptor mistook the 5 minute mark for the 1 minute mark and laid down, like he won the game.
I Had a strong feeling the Pack were fucked when they kicked 2 FG's in the 1st quarter instead of playing to win. Felt the same way at the half. But when Burnett laid down on that INT with 5 minutes left, I knew the goose was cooked.
Congrats to the real Hawks fans on the victory. -
Clay Matthews would make a damn good Seahawk
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It's a good thing Matthews lowered his helmet and missed making a bigger hit.
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I'm all for leveling punishing hits on any and all players who set foot on the field, including QBs, kickers, holders, etc. If you don't want to take a tee shot, you shouldn't be out there.
But this hit was from the blindside. On an engaged player. And helmet-to-helmet. Should result in an ejection and fine. If the League weren't preoccupied with players' shoes. -
Special protection against blows delivered to the head by an opponent is also provided to a receiver who has just completed a catch, a kicker/punter during the kick or during the return, and to the recipient of a "blindside" block.
The rules.
Receiver Catching or Attempting to Catch a Pass
1. Receiver Who Has Completed a Catch. If a receiver has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself, a defensive player is prohibited from launching (springing forward and upward) into him in a way that causes the defensive player's helmet, facemask, shoulder, or forearm to forcibly strike the receiver's head, neck, or face-even if the initial contact of the defender's helmet, facemask, shoulder, or forearm is lower than the receiver's neck.
2. Kicker/Punter During Kick or Return. During a kick or during a return, it is a foul if the initial force of the contact by a defender's helmet (including facemask), forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a kicker/punter.
3. "Blindside" Block. It is an illegal "blindside" block if the initial force of the contact by a blocker's helmet (including facemask), forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of an opponent when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches his opponent from behind or from the side. -
It was fucking dirty. Hooks defenders may cut a QB in half in similar situations but I do not believe they go after the head.
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It was officiated correctly according to the NFL rules.TTJ said:I'm all for leveling punishing hits on any and all players who set foot on the field, including QBs, kickers, holders, etc. If you don't want to take a tee shot, you shouldn't be out there.
But this hit was from the blindside. On an engaged player. And helmet-to-helmet. Should result in an ejection and fine. If the League weren't preoccupied with players' shoes.
I agree that it should be an ejection, but the NFL doesn't really care about player safety. -
We cheered when Golden Tate lit up Dallas with a blind side block but boo when someone does it to Seattle?
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I fucking loved that shit. I miss Golden Tate.SteveInShelton said:We cheered when Golden Tate lit up Dallas with a blind side block but boo when someone does it to Seattle?
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#50 doesn't wear a pink tutu ... like QB's do.CuntWaffle said:
I fucking loved that shit. I miss Golden Tate.SteveInShelton said:We cheered when Golden Tate lit up Dallas with a blind side block but boo when someone does it to Seattle?
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I like to call a hit in the chest coming from the direction the "victim" is going "from the blindside" - that's what I like to do. I also enjoy calling something "helmet to helmet" when just the facemask of one helmet and part of the other guy's shoulder was involved, and the primary contact was shoulder to chest.TTJ said:I'm all for leveling punishing hits on any and all players who set foot on the field, including QBs, kickers, holders, etc. If you don't want to take a tee shot, you shouldn't be out there.
But this hit was from the blindside. On an engaged player. And helmet-to-helmet. Should result in an ejection and fine. If the League weren't preoccupied with players' shoes. -
This thread should be about how Clay Matthews bitched out in the clutch with "fatigue".
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(Grinolds answering my own question warning)
By today's standards, was it semi-dirty? Yes
Would we have given it a second thought in 1999? No -
Some of you fucktards need to learn the difference ...
All for guys getting lit up ... LEGALLY
I'm not for guys targeting the heads of others ... that's dirty and shady shit. -
He got the flag what more do you want? Should he send Russell an apology card with some flowers and a Starbucks gift card?Tequilla said:Some of you fucktards need to learn the difference ...
All for guys getting lit up ... LEGALLY
I'm not for guys targeting the heads of others ... that's dirty and shady shit. -
Plays like that need to get removed out of the game at all levels ... throw in ejections and suspensions and those kind of hits stop.CuntWaffle said:
He got the flag what more do you want? Should he send Russell an apology card with some flowers and a Starbucks gift card?Tequilla said:Some of you fucktards need to learn the difference ...
All for guys getting lit up ... LEGALLY
I'm not for guys targeting the heads of others ... that's dirty and shady shit. -
Pressing. So very, very badly.Blackie said:
I like to call a hit in the chest coming from the direction the "victim" is going "from the blindside" - that's what I like to do. I also enjoy calling something "helmet to helmet" when just the facemask of one helmet and part of the other guy's shoulder was involved, and the primary contact was shoulder to chest.TTJ said:I'm all for leveling punishing hits on any and all players who set foot on the field, including QBs, kickers, holders, etc. If you don't want to take a tee shot, you shouldn't be out there.
But this hit was from the blindside. On an engaged player. And helmet-to-helmet. Should result in an ejection and fine. If the League weren't preoccupied with players' shoes. -
Doubling down with a WTF. Isn't it past your bedtime?TTJ said:
Pressing. So very, very badly.Blackie said:
I like to call a hit in the chest coming from the direction the "victim" is going "from the blindside" - that's what I like to do. I also enjoy calling something "helmet to helmet" when just the facemask of one helmet and part of the other guy's shoulder was involved, and the primary contact was shoulder to chest.TTJ said:I'm all for leveling punishing hits on any and all players who set foot on the field, including QBs, kickers, holders, etc. If you don't want to take a tee shot, you shouldn't be out there.
But this hit was from the blindside. On an engaged player. And helmet-to-helmet. Should result in an ejection and fine. If the League weren't preoccupied with players' shoes.
