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Fotu Leiato

Was offered by Oregon according to Huffmans Twatter.

Seems like Peterson is recruting well, but I find it odd why Peterson hasn't offered, or maybe Peterson has better info than Oregon, UCLA, Michigan State and Oklahoma. Either way...

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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    It is all in the hips! Don't twist!
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Doesn't shart purple, are you new here?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Guessing is to do with position needs.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam
    hear me out. It's possbile, just possible, that Pete doesn't think the kid is that good and dgaf about a YouTube highlight clip.

    #hottake
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited January 2015
    My gut tells me this is not a Scott Crichton situation (UW fell asleep and totally missed the boat). I think (again, gut feeling) that Peterson is well aware of the attention this kid is getting, and is doing his homework.

    Could we end up whiffing? Perhaps, but it would be for lack of analysis.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam
    Passion said:

    My gut tells me this is not a Scott Crichton situation (UW fell asleep and totally missed the boat). I think (again, gut feeling) that Peterson is well aware of the attention this kid is getting, and is doing his homework.

    Could we end up whiffing? Perhaps, but it would be for lack of analysis.

    I love that you think there is a possibility that Pete is not aware of a Washington state kid with big time offers and a viral highlight vid.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam
    "Photo loofah? Never heard of him. Ok, I'm off to scout more church schools!" - Coach Pete
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    doogville said:

    hear me out. It's possbile, just possible, that Pete doesn't think the kid is that good and dgaf about a YouTube highlight clip.

    #hottake

    Your take is really stupid. I'm sure Stoops, Dantonio, Mora, and Helfrich are all offering him based off a highlight tape and did not evaluate any further. The offers prove he's a legitimate prospect. These are very good programs that are better than UW right now. That said, we have five LB's already and Leiato is 5'10" 185. He will either make the transition to safety or be an undersized LB.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited January 2015
    doogville said:

    hear me out. It's possbile, just possible, that Pete doesn't think the kid is that good and dgaf about a YouTube highlight clip.

    #hottake

    I acknowledged as much in my original post. Reading is FUNdamental.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam

    doogville said:

    hear me out. It's possbile, just possible, that Pete doesn't think the kid is that good and dgaf about a YouTube highlight clip.

    #hottake

    Your take is really stupid. I'm sure Stoops, Dantonio, Mora, and Helfrich are all offering him based off a highlight tape and did not evaluate any further. The offers prove he's a legitimate prospect. These are very good programs that are better than UW right now. That said, we have five LB's already and Leiato is 5'10" 185. He will either make the transition to safety or be an undersized LB.
    Yea, shit, why even have Pete evaluate. Just offer UCLA's commit list...

    One of the selling points of Petersen is that he is an excellent evaluator of talent. Meaning better than Jim mora JR. So I don't care if Oklahoma offers. Can't miss five stars with fuck tons of offers flame out all the time.

    Everyone misses, but Petersen misses less (if he is who we think he is). So let it play out and don't lose sleep over it.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Highlight films are always accurate. Unfortunately, Coach Pete probably watches game films and doesn't see the forest through the trees.
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    edited January 2015
    He is exactly the type of recruit Petersen would go after. So, that leads me to conclude it's one of two possibilities: A) We already have enough people committed as his projected positions, or B ) he has some sort of character issue that doesn't jive with Coah Petersen's program.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a Udub offer though, especially if something changes in the current commit situation.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    doogville said:

    Passion said:

    My gut tells me this is not a Scott Crichton situation (UW fell asleep and totally missed the boat). I think (again, gut feeling) that Peterson is well aware of the attention this kid is getting, and is doing his homework.

    Could we end up whiffing? Perhaps, but it would be for lack of analysis.

    I love that you think there is a possibility that Pete is not aware of a Washington state kid with big time offers and a viral highlight vid.
    Correction: I meant that it would NOT be for lack of analysis. Whatever, it's Friday. FO.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    There's a theory that he's being offered by UCLA and Oregon as an inducement to Potatoe.

    Who knows? It doesn't sound like Pete wants him. It doesn't bother me much.

    With Sark, I had absolutely no faith he would make the right decisions; with Pete, like the Beatles in '65, I feel fine.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    AEB said:

    Highlight films are always accurate. Unfortunately, Coach Pete probably watches game films and doesn't see the forest through the trees.

    This is why the Petersen jock sniffing gets annoying. The other coaches don't watch game film and do their homework? I don't think Stoops and Dantonio have been successful by being lazy.

    Dantonio has succeeded with middle of the conference ranked recruiting classes. He must know something about evaluating.

    We have five LB's already and aren't sold on Leiato as a safety. It makes sense, but this "Pete knows all" is bullshit.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515

    There's a theory that he's being offered by UCLA and Oregon as an inducement to Potatoe.

    Who knows? It doesn't sound like Pete wants him. It doesn't bother me much.

    With Sark, I had absolutely no faith he would make the right decisions; with Pete, like the Beatles in '65, I feel fine.

    He will visit the Ducks the weekend before signing day. The Ducks are trying to poach Potoae and I'd say that if Potoae doesn't make his decision next week, he will likely visit Oregon with Fotu and commit to Oregon. At that point, the doogman bored will go nuts
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991

    He is exactly the type of recruit Petersen would go after. So, that leads me to conclude it's one of two possibilities: A) We already have enough people committed as his projected positions, or B ) he has some sort of character issue that doesn't jive with Coah Petersen's program.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with a Udub offer though, especially if something changes in the current commit situation.

    This

    We already have 6 LB/S commits: Beavers, Bartlett, Pounds, Manu, BBK, and Turner... 7 if you include Warren who's projected to be a BUCK.

    I think Petersen would like to have Leiato, but we probably don't have room anymore after securing Turner away from Oklahoma.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    AEB said:

    Highlight films are always accurate. Unfortunately, Coach Pete probably watches game films and doesn't see the forest through the trees.

    This is why the Petersen jock sniffing gets annoying. The other coaches don't watch game film and do their homework? I don't think Stoops and Dantonio have been successful by being lazy.

    Dantonio has succeeded with middle of the conference ranked recruiting classes. He must know something about evaluating.

    We have five LB's already and aren't sold on Leiato as a safety. It makes sense, but this "Pete knows all" is bullshit.
    Easy big boy. More a comment on the Doogin that exploded over this kid because of his YouTube film. No doog following recruiting ever heard of this kid until his highlights went viral. I'm guessing the staff has seen his game tape and maybe passed. Guessing other coaches made the opposite decision. Thats what makes a market. But still, the rest of us are judging Coach Pete first based upon a highlight tape. Now with other offers coming in that's changing some. For example, I thought he was bigger. Didn't realize from game tape he was 5'10
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Im curious, is there any evidence of this guys potential beyond just blowing up guys on kickoffs?
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    Im curious, is there any evidence of this guys potential beyond just blowing up guys on kickoffs?

    This has the makings of a Doog Legend a la Evan Hudson is to JJ Watt as Fotu is to Troy Polomalu...

    As well as this staff has recruited and offered the State of WA, something HAS to be up.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    edited January 2015
    Has this kid actually set up any visits besides Oregon on the last weekend before signing day?

    It seems odd that the kid has offers from Oklahoma, UCLA, Michigan State, etc but doesn't seem to have set up visits anywhere. Reminds me of Jojo Mathis who supposedly had offers to everywhere in the country but only visited UW and Utah. In his case no one wanted to take a chance on his grades.

    The fact that Oregon wants him to visit right before signing day tels me either
    A) they want to use him as bait to get Potato to visit them right before signing day, or
    B )He's a plan B they can take if they need to fill a LB spot. Remember, they don't accept commitments until someone visits.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this viral video recruit cools down and ends up signing with WSU in the end. Then the coogs can crow about how they got the secret best recruit in the nation
  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    Oregon lost out on Tevis Bartlett to the UW. They need LB's!
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144

    Im curious, is there any evidence of this guys potential beyond just blowing up guys on kickoffs?

    Yes. He won defensive MVP of his league. He played QB and RB on offense and broke off a bunch of long TD runs. MaxPreps stats show he ran for 666 yards at almost 8 yards a clip. On defense he timed his blitzes perfectly and showed football instincts that can't be taught. He made a bunch of plays around the line and he didn't just get guys down, but destroyed them. Great instincts and he loves to hit. There is a reason he's blown up.

    This is in response to other posts, not Chestbeaters: Petersen does his own evaluation which is great. He didn't seem to want Thockmorton or Lemeiux either. It happens. Some of you sound like Coogs though.

    "All he does is blow up guys on kick offs!" As I noted in the first paragraph, that is bullshit.

    "These schools only want him because of Potatoe!" Oregon is riding high off a title game experience and they are offering Leiato as a favor to get Potoae? Think that through. Potoae is a good prospect. He's not a 5 star can't miss guy.

    "Petersen doesn't offer because of a great highlight film!" But Stoops, Dantonio, Mora, and Helfrich do. Those coaches suck compared to Petersen. Last I checked, those schools are better than UW.

    Leiato is a tweener and we already have a lot of LB's and safeties. Maybe he's not an OKG either. There are a lot of explanations other than he sucks or only blows up guys on kick offs.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    I'm saying we're judging Petersen in large part based on a highlight film (you cite additional detail but in large part we're working off a highlight film and Nacho's insights). You correctly note that Pete passed on Throckmorton and Lemieux where others saw value. Others see value in Fotu and offered. Great. They see something our staff doesn't. What I take issue with is the insinuation the Pete and Squad don't know what they are doing for offering Manu instead of Fotu and saying Pete sucks because others are offering.

    I'm very pleased at how well Pete has recruiting WA this year and last. If Sark had done it as well Pete our roster would be way better. I just think there's probably a very valid reason they're not offering like with Lemieux or Throckmorton...and by the way we're all assuming they haven't offered when we know jack shit or we know whatever jack the lad spews.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Finally watched. Yeah he's small but if you don't think this kid can play you're FS. You're telling me he couldn't be Sean Parker? If we're not recruiting him, could be academis related. No idea.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Im curious, is there any evidence of this guys potential beyond just blowing up guys on kickoffs?

    Watch his full Hudl. The kid looks pretty damn good.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited January 2015
    I just watched the Hudl again, and this one confuses me. There is something not football related for why we aren't offering him. Either that or Pete is kicking himself for offering some of the other LB's, although I doubt it. If he thought Leiato was special he would find a way to make room.

    Leiato is a football player. If you say he only blows guys up on kick offs, then you obviously didn't watch past the first minute. He dominates in every facet of the game. He does everything you would want a high school player to do against sub par competition. I've made this point a few times before, but I'm going to again; First team all league on offense, defense, and special teams.

    His motor is non stop. He's running guys down 50 yards down the field, trucking blockers as a punt gunner, playing every special team, and showing great instincts both as a ball carrier and timing his blitzes. The Polamolu comparison is the easy one because of the hair, but honestly, it seems fairly accurate. Leiato is a defensive playmaker.
  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    He is not a big guy but he has a football brain, which means he could be a good college player. I think we either already have his spot filled, or there is some issue that is at odds with what Petersen wants for the team.
  • Thump
    Thump Member Posts: 793

    Was offered by Oregon according to Huffmans Twatter.

    Seems like Peterson is recruting well, but I find it odd why Peterson hasn't offered, or maybe Peterson has better info than Oregon, UCLA, Michigan State and Oklahoma. Either way...

    Maybe he or his staff have talked to the kid and don't think he's OKG.

    Also, hasn't it been written that Pete only offers kids that will commit and stay committed? (or something along those lines)

    Maybe this kid is interested in shopping around more and has told UW staff as much.


  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    Thump said:

    Was offered by Oregon according to Huffmans Twatter.

    Seems like Peterson is recruting well, but I find it odd why Peterson hasn't offered, or maybe Peterson has better info than Oregon, UCLA, Michigan State and Oklahoma. Either way...

    Maybe he or his staff have talked to the kid and don't think he's OKG.

    Also, hasn't it been written that Pete only offers kids that will commit and stay committed? (or something along those lines)

    Maybe this kid is interested in shopping around more and has told UW staff as much.


    Yeah, Petersen does a pretty good job of researching these guys before he extends an offer and definitely puts a premium on kids who will stay all four years, buy in and not be an ass in the locker room or at school.

    It could be that Petersen went to Steilacoom, asked the principal about the kid and he said "Oh yeah, kid is a talentented football player, I just hope he matures. Unfortunately he skips class a lot, acts a fool in class, and hangs out with the kids who sell weed."

    This scenario is, of course, all hypothetical, but I'm sure there have been kids who Petersen thought about bringing in, but then met them and said "nope". Clearly, Sark did not have such reservations about players.