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Mariota to struggle in the NFL?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club

    LaZoris said:

    I don't see Mariota failing. He may not be a star, but he has too much talent and too good of work ethic to completely fail. At minimum he will be an above average QB.

    He's really fast and mostly accurate. With reps he will learn how to be an NFL QB.

    Please name the above avg QB's in the NFL. Maybe 10-12 of them? How long until Mariota gets there? Way, way better odds he never becomes a above avg QB.
    You don't think he can get to the Kaepernick or Newton level?
    Nope. Both are bigger and stronger with better arms
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,512
    The problem I see with Mariota is that he's never really had to check down to his 3rd or 4th WR. Oregon's scheme is simply not NFL friendly in that it's one (maaaybe two) read and throw or run around and hope to find a WR open.

    Another problem is that tOSU showed what happens when a team has a very good and deep front 7, they can shut down the running game. On most Oregon drives, tOSU was not biting on the play-action fake because they weren't really worried about Tyner / Freeman and Mariota was getting run down most of the time and hit rather than being able to run out of bounds like he did against most teams to avoid contact.

    NFL execs (and me in my mom's basement) want to know, how will Mariota do when he's forced to stay in the pocket and find his 3rd read without being able to lean on the scheme / PA passing game so much?

    As for Newton and Kaepernick, Newton has been banged up a few times and the shine has started to come off Kaepernick. According to this simple measure, they are both below average QB rating wise in the NFL (just below Mark Sanchez and just above journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick):

    espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

    I don't see Mariota failing. He may not be a star, but he has too much talent and too good of work ethic to completely fail. At minimum he will be an above average QB.

    He's really fast and mostly accurate. With reps he will learn how to be an NFL QB.

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,394 Standard Supporter

    LaZoris said:

    I don't see Mariota failing. He may not be a star, but he has too much talent and too good of work ethic to completely fail. At minimum he will be an above average QB.

    He's really fast and mostly accurate. With reps he will learn how to be an NFL QB.

    Please name the above avg QB's in the NFL. Maybe 10-12 of them? How long until Mariota gets there? Way, way better odds he never becomes a above avg QB.
    You don't think he can get to the Kaepernick or Newton level?
    Nope. Both are bigger and stronger with better arms
    Mariota is more accurate than either were coming out of college. I don't think arm strength is an issue for Mariota.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,808 Swaye's Wigwam
    I don't think he played bad last night, and I dont think the odds of him being an nfl disappointment are any better than most highly touted qbs. I know fuck-all though.

    Oregon was outgunned by a bigger, faster, more pissed off gang of football bullies. It was fucking Urban Legend on the other sideline guys. The fucking guy made Utah into a dominant team. It's not the qb's fault all the time.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,432 Founders Club
    The only thing Mariota is gonna struggle with..... will he be in Pro Bowl year 4 or year 5.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club
    HuskyJW said:

    The only thing Mariota is gonna struggle with..... will he be in Pro Bowl year 4 or year 5.

    Maybe in the CFL. Mariota is a project in the NFL, not that there's anything wrong with that.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,394 Standard Supporter

    HuskyJW said:

    The only thing Mariota is gonna struggle with..... will he be in Pro Bowl year 4 or year 5.

    Maybe in the CFL. Mariota is a project in the NFL, not that there's anything wrong with that.
    A project that will be picked first in the draft.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    HuskyJW said:

    The only thing Mariota is gonna struggle with..... will he be in Pro Bowl year 4 or year 5.

    Maybe in the CFL. Mariota is a project in the NFL, not that there's anything wrong with that.
    A project that will be picked first in the draft.
    Get paid, get out of the Pac-12, and faretheewell
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223

    Peoplein the sports world are starting to ponder if Mariota take the Matt Leinart route. (reasons, reasons, reasons) We shall see.

    I'm 81% sure that Matt Leinart stayed for his 5th year because he was able to conveniently mask the fact that he needed some sort of surgery (knee I think) which would have been discovered at combine physicals and affected his draft status with a bunch of "rah, rah, staying in skool is awesome!" crap. Just ask Matt Barkley or Jake Lockner about the financial wisdom of waiting an extra year to enter the draft when perfectly healthy.

    It turns out that the "hang out a year and fuck coeds" part of Matt's plan ended up working out a little too well, just ask Blake Griffin

    So what you are saying is that Bryn Cameron is doing a good job of showing how you can parlay a women's college basketball scholarship into a mid 6-figure a year career?
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,354 Founders Club

    HuskyJW said:

    The only thing Mariota is gonna struggle with..... will he be in Pro Bowl year 4 or year 5.

    Maybe in the CFL. Mariota is a project in the NFL, not that there's anything wrong with that.
    A project that will be picked first in the draft.
    Wouldn't be the first time that's happened