Jake the Savior, Part II
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CAN'T WAIT to hate him in 2016.
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More like 2017.TierbsHsotBoobs said:CAN'T WAIT to hate him in 2016.
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Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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my god.... how bad are lindquist and williams if they cant beat out cylee
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The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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FUCK YOU ROAD!!!!RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Youth an rebuilding for 15 years... awesome!RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Exactly.LaZoris said:my god.... how bad are lindquist and williams if they cant beat out cylee
If not, we are overpaying Peterman.
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81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Was he a true freshman?H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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I don't know. Stop trying to use facts to ruin my argument.HuskyHalfBrain said:
Was he a true freshman?H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Counting on a saviour at QB is ridiculous. Getting average QB play compared to the rest of the conference would be a success. That is especially true if it is Browning or KJCS.H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
The young OL and DL will need a season to gel. I'm hopeful we don't completely suck next year. 5-4 or 6-3 would be a very good season. We all hate the youth excuse, but it will be a young team. Some youth is fine, but not for both lines. -
I didn't say "Savior", I just want "serviceable".RoadDawg55 said:
Counting on a saviour at QB is ridiculous. Getting average QB play compared to the rest of the conference would be a success. That is especially true if it is Browning or KJCS.H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
The young OL and DL will need a season to gel. I'm hopeful we don't completely suck next year. 5-4 or 6-3 would be a very good season. We all hate the youth excuse, but it will be a young team. Some youth is fine, but not for both lines. -
You gave me a hope for a minute there.H_D said:
I don't know. Stop trying to use facts to ruin my argument.HuskyHalfBrain said:
Was he a true freshman?H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Me too, but serviceable won't get us contending when you look at the rest of the roster.H_D said:
I didn't say "Savior", I just want "serviceable".RoadDawg55 said:
Counting on a saviour at QB is ridiculous. Getting average QB play compared to the rest of the conference would be a success. That is especially true if it is Browning or KJCS.H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
The young OL and DL will need a season to gel. I'm hopeful we don't completely suck next year. 5-4 or 6-3 would be a very good season. We all hate the youth excuse, but it will be a young team. Some youth is fine, but not for both lines. -
Besides, coming in early and participating in spring practice is just as good as redshirting.HuskyHalfBrain said:
You gave me a hope for a minute there.H_D said:
I don't know. Stop trying to use facts to ruin my argument.HuskyHalfBrain said:
Was he a true freshman?H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
#DoogLogic -
It will in all hypothetical January upcoming season debates.RoadDawg55 said:
Me too, but serviceable won't get us contending when you look at the rest of the roster.H_D said:
I didn't say "Savior", I just want "serviceable".RoadDawg55 said:
Counting on a saviour at QB is ridiculous. Getting average QB play compared to the rest of the conference would be a success. That is especially true if it is Browning or KJCS.H_D said:
81% chance you are right, but once in a blue moon, it does happen where a freshman QB comes in and has success.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
The young OL and DL will need a season to gel. I'm hopeful we don't completely suck next year. 5-4 or 6-3 would be a very good season. We all hate the youth excuse, but it will be a young team. Some youth is fine, but not for both lines.
But yeah, seriously, you're right. -
After this game, I might give up my left nut for 6-3 in conference.
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I'll wager $20 Sven bucks that we'll get better after losing 4 of these OL.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Road is right. Reading the Thursday Speeches book recently has put a lot of shit in perspective. We are eager as shit to see a winner at U-dub. Our hated (used to be) rival down south is playing for all the marbles and will probably succeed. We just lost to OkL in a bowl game nobody gives a fuck about. It's frustrating as fuck.
Couple that with the old joke 20XX is going to be special, and it's easy to mutiny. Next year IS a rebuilding year, by all measures, hall of fame coach or not. We are shit now, and lose legitimate talent in the trenches. If Browning is the future he'll be a true frosh, mistakes will be made.
Pete gets 3, and he has some serious staff eval to do on the offensive side of the ball, but when next year looks similar or worse don't be surprised.
Year 3 fellas. -
Save that right nut for another 6-3 in conference for 2016, we'll need it.HeretoBeatmyChest said:After this game, I might give up my left nut for 6-3 in conference.
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$2.99 shipped for your copy of the Thursday Speeches book, thanks in advance.Doogles said:Road is right. Reading the Thursday Speeches book recently has put a lot of shit in perspective. We are eager as shit to see a winner at U-dub. Our hated (used to be) rival down south is playing for all the marbles and will probably succeed. We just lost to OkL in a bowl game nobody gives a fuck about. It's frustrating as fuck.
Couple that with the old joke 20XX is going to be special, and it's easy to mutiny. Next year IS a rebuilding year, by all measures, hall of fame coach or not. We are shit now, and lose legitimate talent in the trenches. If Browning is the future he'll be a true frosh, mistakes will be made. Pete gets 3, and he has some serious staff eval to do on the offensive side of the ball, but when next year looks similar or worse don't be surprised.
Year 3 fellas. -
It was a gift. And i'm keeping it.HuskyHalfBrain said:
$2.99 shipped for your copy of the Thursday Speeches book, thanks in advance.Doogles said:Road is right. Reading the Thursday Speeches book recently has put a lot of shit in perspective. We are eager as shit to see a winner at U-dub. Our hated (used to be) rival down south is playing for all the marbles and will probably succeed. We just lost to OkL in a bowl game nobody gives a fuck about. It's frustrating as fuck.
Couple that with the old joke 20XX is going to be special, and it's easy to mutiny. Next year IS a rebuilding year, by all measures, hall of fame coach or not. We are shit now, and lose legitimate talent in the trenches. If Browning is the future he'll be a true frosh, mistakes will be made. Pete gets 3, and he has some serious staff eval to do on the offensive side of the ball, but when next year looks similar or worse don't be surprised.
Year 3 fellas. -
Because I want us to be better, we will be post of the night.whatshouldicareabout said:
I'll wager $20 Sven bucks that we'll get better after losing 4 of these OL.RoadDawg55 said:
The season is already over. You don't lost your best players on defense and 4 OL and get drastically better. It's a rebuilding year.Gladstone said:Jake or hyphen start week 1. Or the season is over.
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Doogles said:
It was a gift. And i'm keeping it.HuskyHalfBrain said:
$2.99 shipped for your copy of the Thursday Speeches book, thanks in advance.Doogles said:Road is right. Reading the Thursday Speeches book recently has put a lot of shit in perspective. We are eager as shit to see a winner at U-dub. Our hated (used to be) rival down south is playing for all the marbles and will probably succeed. We just lost to OkL in a bowl game nobody gives a fuck about. It's frustrating as fuck.
Couple that with the old joke 20XX is going to be special, and it's easy to mutiny. Next year IS a rebuilding year, by all measures, hall of fame coach or not. We are shit now, and lose legitimate talent in the trenches. If Browning is the future he'll be a true frosh, mistakes will be made. Pete gets 3, and he has some serious staff eval to do on the offensive side of the ball, but when next year looks similar or worse don't be surprised.
Year 3 fellas.
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@whatshouldicareabout - I hope you are right and the OL is improved. Maybe it can happen by the middle to end of the season. They will need time though. Another worry is that none of the young guys/back ups have shown much. Coleman Shelton was bad when he played this year. Tufunga is JAG at best. Brostek has been terrible when he played and expecting him to be anything more than serviceable is probably wishful thinking.
Sark whiffed on a lot of guys on the OL and most of the ones he did get aren't any good. I like some of the guys currently redshirting and it wouldn't shock me if Adams or Roberts saw the field, but it's a hard postion for a freshman to excel at. Where do you think this line will compare to the rest of the Pac?
My hope is that it can be serviceable and the young guys improve as the season goes on. It's not a good situation and we might even need more than a year to get the OL right.
At least on the DL, there are some young pups such as Mathis and Qualls who have shown they can play. Dissley was competing with Mathis and looked pretty good in limited time. Choate said Vita Vea was more talented than Shelton. Who knows if he will ever be as good, but I bet he will at worst be decent. -
Shut the program down right now.HeretoBeatmyChest said:After this game, I might give up my left nut for 6-3 in conference.
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The OL this year was experienced in a sense they had played in a lot of games but the OL was not very talented. In terms of experience, the 4 SR OL had played together for years, so you figured they'd continue right where they left off in 2013. However, the 4 SR OL had 4 years experience with zone blocking, meaning they were taught zone blocking for 4 years and played zone blocking for 4 years. When there was the coaching change, we shifted to a man blocking scheme, so in a sense, those 4 years of experience are somewhat misleading since they were now learning and trying to perfect a new blocking scheme. Yes, they have game experience, but it's not the same as if they had Petersen for 4 years and had practiced man blocking for 4 years.RoadDawg55 said:@whatshouldicareabout - I hope you are right and the OL is improved. Maybe it can happen by the middle to end of the season. They will need time though. Another worry is that none of the young guys/back ups have shown much. Coleman Shelton was bad when he played this year. Tufunga is JAG at best. Brostek has been terrible when he played and expecting him to be anything more than serviceable is probably wishful thinking.
Sark whiffed on a lot of guys on the OL and most of the ones he did get aren't any good. I like some of the guys currently redshirting and it wouldn't shock me if Adams or Roberts saw the field, but it's a hard postion for a freshman to excel at. Where do you think this line will compare to the rest of the Pac?
My hope is that it can be serviceable and the young guys improve as the season goes on. It's not a good situation and we might even need more than a year to get the OL right.
At least on the DL, there are some young pups such as Mathis and Qualls who have shown they can play. Dissley was competing with Mathis and looked pretty good in limited time. Choate said Vita Vea was more talented than Shelton. Who knows if he will ever be as good, but I bet he will at worst be decent.
Of course, experience is integral to a successful OL, but there needs to be talent, too, and this OL lacked talent. For example, how many Pac-12 teams would have Atoe as a starter on their OL? How many teams would have Coleman Shelton as their first replacement for a RT that was injured for most of the year? How many players deep was our OL? Sark neglected OL recruiting, so it won't be for another year or so before we see a significant climb in talent.
However, the reason why I have hope that the OL will be better than last year is due to a number of reasons. The first and foremost is that we'll have another year of Strausser and another year of Socha and another year of practicing man blocking. The OL next year will have had twice as much time as the current OL. I don't know what kind of line you work in, but think about where you were at the 1 year mark versus the 2 year mark. Or you can think of your podcasts, where you were at point A and at A x2. The second is that the offense should adjust next year. Petersen won't accept how the offense performed this year and he'll make it his mission this offseason to improve it. If he's the coach we think he is, the offense is his top priority. I don't think he'll pull the trigger on Smith after one season (though I wouldn't mind it), but they'll change their philosophy to reflect the personnel which will help mask the deficiencies of the OL next year. Whether we imitate Sark and go back to Bubble-screen City or what remains to be seen. However, I do know that Petersen will identify the weaknesses in from this season.
As for the DL, we will be taking a step back from losing Shelton and Kikaha, but I think we'll see a step up in place of Hudson and Hudson. If it were up to me, we'd be seeing Vea at NT, Qualls at DT, Dissly at DE and Mathis at Buck. -
Chance that Browning starts. Get the boy some anabolics and meet up w/ Ivan in the weight room
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