Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
ASU and UCLA were equal to them.
Pac 12 has about eight okay to pretty good, but not top ten caliber teams: Utah, SC, Stanford, UW, and those three. Okay It's seven. I said that in September.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
Don't play this game, because then I have to stay stupid shit like Alabama beats Ohio State 5 out of 6 and stuff like that.
Arizona won the fucking game. Winners win and losers lose, you know.
Besides that, ASU got the unholiest of plunger rapes from UCLA and lost at Oregon State. I can't put them ahead of Arizona especially when the Wildcats beat them when it counted. I think Graham fucked ASU over by going back to Kelly. He wasn't the same guy after the injury.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
Agree.
ASU wasn't that good. They won a miracle game vs SC and missed Oregon. Ditto with Arizona, they should have lost to Cal and been plungered by #yourhuskies. I bet Stanford would have beat Arizona had they played. They were both very lucky, both teams were more like 8-4 level squads that had favorable schedules and a Hail Mary win.
Right now today - Stanford is the 2nd best P12 team. Their revamped OL gelled, Hogan excelled down the stretch, and McCaffery emerged. They tore Cal UCLA and Maryland to shreds the last three games without Ty Montgomery nonetheless. They also had bad luck early in the year in the bizarre game vs Sark and at ND. Stanford's play right now befits that of a 10-2 type team in my opinion.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
USC and UCLA. Scoreboard, baby
But how did UCLA and USC finish behind them in the standings...and why do you think Oregon is only the fourth best team in the Pac-12?
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
UW had its fucking chance and blew it. UW hasn't beaten anyone worth a shit this year. The Huskies aren't in the conversation.
Stanford has one good win all year (at UCLA). USC choked away its chance to win the division at UCLA and UCLA choked away its chance to win the division against Stanford.
Arizona won the games it needed to win because they are better than those three teams.
Win or get the fuck out. Don't give me this hypothetical Sark bullshit.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
I think ASU beats Zona 5 out of 6. I really do. Something happened in Tempe and they faded a bit, but they were more impressive. Arizon's win over Oregon, while it can't be swept under the rug, was pretty circumstantial. We all know that O lines are fucking vital - nobody knows that better than a Washington fan. And Oregon's was good and fucked up at that time.
ASU faded pretty badly down the stretch. Even in the bowl game they were playing shitty. Right now, I think UCLA, USC, and Stanford are all better than Arizona. UW might be in that conversation too.
Agree.
ASU wasn't that good. They won a miracle game vs SC and missed Oregon. Ditto with Arizona, they should have lost to Cal and been plungered by #yourhuskies. I bet Stanford would have beat Arizona had they played. They were both very lucky, both teams were more like 8-4 level squads that had favorable schedules and a Hail Mary win.
Right now today - Stanford is the 2nd best P12 team. Their revamped OL gelled, Hogan excelled down the stretch, and McCaffery emerged. They tore Cal UCLA and Maryland to shreds the last three games without Ty Montgomery nonetheless. They also had bad luck early in the year in the bizarre game vs Sark and at ND. Stanford's play right now befits that of a 10-2 type team in my opinion.
Stanford's "quality wins" this year: UCLA Washington Maryland
If that's the second best team in your league, your league fucking sucks.
Fuck Sagarin. I'm all for advanced stats, but these SEC teams don't play anyone out of conference, only play 8games in conference, and then get plungered in bowl season. The model is flawed, and, as always, stats are for losers.
Fine. Find an answer that says someone else is better.
You're saying the SEC West sucks and I'm agreeing with you.
Now tell me who is better than the SEC West.
All the teams whose conferences beat them. Same as it was all season. Stop moving the goal poasts Obama.
Ok, so the ACC is the best conference in the land.
That's all you had to say.
Oh...what happened to the ACC champ today?
Same thing that happened to the SEC champ today.
Bam!
South Carolina barely beat a retard.
Bam!
LSU lost to ND Dreck - a ND team, mind you, that Dude Brah Gaped.
Bam!
And Miss. State, an SEC West elite team lost to Georgia Fucking Tech, a one-trick pony if there ever was.
Bam! Bam!
Bam! Bam! Bam!
So the ACC is great.
Florida State - brutally raped today by the only Pac-12 team worth a shit Clemson - not a bad little team. Split with the SEC this year Louisville - raped by Georgia in their bowl game Georgia Tech - stopped looking through their results after I saw losses to Duke and UNC Duke - last season losing to some mediocrity in El Paso
Everyone else - fucking dreckfest
See yet? Everyone sucks. The SEC just came back to the field.
You should look up the word "Tautology". That's what your "everyone sucks" argument is.
if you stopped looking after Duke and NC, I can't help you, because they but hole gaped the second best team in your favorite confrence last night. maybe you didn't get the news.
you see, they had those losses because they beat each other up see.
does that sound fucking familiar?
even the most dominant teams in the history of the sport stumble along the way.
everyone does not suck. the P12 is in pretty decent shape.
The Pac-12's second best team lost to Boise. Fucking. State, a team that Ole Miss rolled easily this year.
Simple fact, case closed, end of discussion.
Pressing
Which Pac-12 team besides Oregon was better than Arizona?
ASU and UCLA were equal to them.
Pac 12 has about eight okay to pretty good, but not top ten caliber teams: Utah, SC, Stanford, UW, and those three. Okay It's seven. I said that in September.
Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?
Time to go to bed Boobs. You are obviously distraught over the SEC SEC SEC bowl meltdown and are polluting this board. A good night sleep and you'll wake up tomorrow with a clear view of how the SEC SEC SEC is and has been overrated.
Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?
Time to go to bed Boobs. You are obviously distraught over the SEC SEC SEC bowl meltdown and are polluting this board. A good night sleep and you'll wake up tomorrow with a clear view of how the SEC SEC SEC is and has been overrated.
The SEC was overrated this year. I covered this shit so many hours ago, keep up or get out.
Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?
Time to go to bed Boobs. You are obviously distraught over the SEC SEC SEC bowl meltdown and are polluting this board. A good night sleep and you'll wake up tomorrow with a clear view of how the SEC SEC SEC is and has been overrated.
I covered this shit so many hours ago, keep up or get out.
Jesus, you spam the bored just as much as Cockus did. Post less and shut the fuck up, for a change.
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Pac 12 has about eight okay to pretty good, but not top ten caliber teams: Utah, SC, Stanford, UW, and those three. Okay It's seven. I said that in September.
Arizona won the fucking game. Winners win and losers lose, you know.
Besides that, ASU got the unholiest of plunger rapes from UCLA and lost at Oregon State. I can't put them ahead of Arizona especially when the Wildcats beat them when it counted. I think Graham fucked ASU over by going back to Kelly. He wasn't the same guy after the injury.
ASU wasn't that good. They won a miracle game vs SC and missed Oregon. Ditto with Arizona, they should have lost to Cal and been plungered by #yourhuskies. I bet Stanford would have beat Arizona had they played. They were both very lucky, both teams were more like 8-4 level squads that had favorable schedules and a Hail Mary win.
Right now today - Stanford is the 2nd best P12 team. Their revamped OL gelled, Hogan excelled down the stretch, and McCaffery emerged. They tore Cal UCLA and Maryland to shreds the last three games without Ty Montgomery nonetheless. They also had bad luck early in the year in the bizarre game vs Sark and at ND. Stanford's play right now befits that of a 10-2 type team in my opinion.
Stanford has one good win all year (at UCLA). USC choked away its chance to win the division at UCLA and UCLA choked away its chance to win the division against Stanford.
Arizona won the games it needed to win because they are better than those three teams.
Win or get the fuck out. Don't give me this hypothetical Sark bullshit.
UCLA
Washington
Maryland
If that's the second best team in your league, your league fucking sucks.
Illinois is Washington's best win this year.
Why did Arizona get to go to the Fiesta Bowl instead of all these other allegedly awesome Pac-12 teams?
Notre Dame on a 4 game losing streak
A team without a head coach
An offense from 1914
A 3rd string B1G QB
Hth