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All of you act like winning does not change the local perception with recruits anywhere? Koetter was such a turd to the local HS coaches that it takes time to change minds. Ericson was a complete loser in recruiting elite local programs like Chandler-Hamilton saying he could do better with the abundance of players in California. Kirk wanted to leave the state and only changed his mind recently due to Graham and three seasons of 8-10-10. When was the last time recruits like Gusitn, Irwin, Holiday, Masina, or Wicker would have the Devils in their final cut? ASU has a five star JC already. In state we have two of three best O-lineman. Bryce Perkins ( Paul Perkins brother at UCLA) is a highly ranked local QB committed. We did not even want the other local QB that is going to Michigan State since we have an elite one in Brady White. Peat pretty much is a shopping and not solid with UCLA, and could end up at ASU if the coaches don't sign someone they like better.Check out singing day if you still think AZ local kids are still leaving the state or programs like ASU can't get decent to elite Cali talent. Right now Scout has ASU with 18 commits at 21 and Washington with 21 players ranked 24, there is no reason either school can't get it done. There are two parts to building a program and both are crucial. Arizona is booked up with a ranking in the 30's. They can enjoy their top ten raking but over time the talent will tell.

I just laugh at the how long will Graham be at ASU when Chryst just booked from crappy Pitt after three years for the Vagers. All the time their macho East Coast fans came over to our Scout board to talk the worst smack with comments like Penny Graham was having sex with players or the same old tired shit about, "is he gone yet" , but when the reality for their program is almost a new coaching staff on average after a two or three year period. One got arrested and fired before even going through spring practice. Mora is more a threat to leave. Hell, Riley is the Nebraska coach. They all job hop and its not like AD's don't fire their butts like Colorado if they get cold feet when they should have a moral obligation to let the guy have at least a couple years, its a business. There must be at least four or five trite comments about him leaving ASU in the near future on this thread alone, say something insightful at least. I believe him when he says he wants to build a top ten team and his wife's parents really do live here. When did Mora or Sark give a $500,000 to any football program? If he leaves and ASU is a major player that is fine with us, but don't lay the same old tired crap on him leaving soon. If ASU gets a couple years of 10 wins or more that is OK with everyone. There is a better chance Sark gets fired at USC for not getting them to the next level than the slick talking car salesman from Tempe leaving in the next two years. Looking at the attitude of people here on HardCore Husky coach Pete better win ten games next year or else!

Norvell's offense did not live up to its potential but Graham's defense exceeded in every way. Just TWO starters from last year. A Coug walk on and Washington native, Jordan Simone, was a lights out player and missed in the Arizona game. Maricus Hardison when from a rotation player to now probably getting drafted. Graham has a very good staff on defense which he takes an active part as you know. Under Ericson Sutton was OK but not all PAC 12 POY two years in a row. No, you are wrong - coaching is very good on both offense or defense. Norvell is good or he would not be one of the best paid in the PAC 12 but Graham has a long list of very good OC's since his Tulsa days like Mahlzhan. To say his winning is soley due to Norvel is just not true. Would hurt to have him leave but the guy has reloaded a lot in the past at OC. Do your research and you will see a number of guys calling offenses that worked for Graham that are at big programs.