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BallSacked said:
I guess some of that talk has to do with Phoenix becoming a TBS hot spot, but I don't see sleeping giant either. It's a terrible school in the middle of the desert. Home grown stars flee out of there at a high rate. UWs recruiting success under Dom James, per Mincys post here, was lock down in-state and carefully select SoCal guys that SC/UCLA ignored. I don't see ASU locking down in-state anytime soon. I think UW is more ideally suited to execute that, homegrown players are more prone to staying in state and CP obviously has his OKG system that worked at a high level in Boise.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
ASU is a very well coached team, probably the best coached/schemed team in the league right now. But I don't see them ever having top 3 or 4 talent.They take a lot of risks defensively with how much they blitz, and I think teams have started to figure that out. And they have benefitted, and will continue to benefit, from not playing both Oregon/Stanford in the same year the past 3 seasons.BallSacked said:
I guess some of that talk has to do with Phoenix becoming a TBS hot spot, but I don't see sleeping giant either. It's a terrible school in the middle of the desert. Home grown stars flee out of there at a high rate. UWs recruiting success under Dom James, per Mincys post here, was lock down in-state and carefully select SoCal guys that SC/UCLA ignored. I don't see ASU locking down in-state anytime soon. I think UW is more ideally suited to execute that, homegrown players are more prone to staying in state and CP obviously has his OKG system that worked at a high level in Boise.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
ASU is a very well coached team, probably the best coached/schemed team in the league right now. But I don't see them ever having top 3 or 4 talent.They take a lot of risks defensively with how much they blitz, and I think teams have started to figure that out. And they have benefitted, and will continue to benefit, from not playing both Oregon/Stanford in the same year the past 3 seasons. -
ASU should be good for the very same reasons a team in the Seattle Met should.Don't call Phoenix an armpit in the desert and I will not abuse the constantly rainly, overcast feeling of gloom sterotype of your city. They are great places to live when compared with say Lincoln Nebraska or boring Corvalis. The weather is primo in the Valley of the Sun this time of the year. Cold for us is the present 60's and we can't get your NW silver heads to flap their snowbird wings and go home till May.Wrong on the talent prediction, Graham is killing at recruiting right now and will do better than #17 on Scout last year. From the 30's to on the doorstep of the mid teens in three years. Petersen should be so good in short a time, since like Graham he can do more with less. ASU is in on 7 five or four stars players on the seven spost left. Three four star rated players last week alone. Seven could get the kids but imploded against even Ericson. He is not job hoping either, since he just gave $500,000 to the new $350,000,000 stadium district fund. We have a new AD in Anderson that gets it, unlike the dumpster fire in Salt Lake City. Washington will be a player soon to, since you are the "sleeping gaint" of the NorthWest. You have the upgraded stadium, the quality coach, and it is time to reach your destiney. You might even beat ASU in 2016, but not next year most likely. As for the snide comments about our fans, just look at the Stanford ass hats. Its easy to get excited about the Ducks since there is nothing else sports wise in the entire state. Looking forward to their post-Chip / Mariotta era. They come to Tempe in 2015.
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Take it from me -- there isn't.RaceBannon said:
That was my attempt at math humorBallSacked said:
I'm saying that link doesnt support that the big12 is better than the pac12. Because 1) Stats are for losers. And 2) Half of the conference in his link is two spots better than the big12, and the other half is two spots worse.RaceBannon said:
So you're saying the Pac 6 of the Pac 12 is better than the Big 10 of the Big 12?BallSacked said:I guess it is when you are trying to argue 2 is easier than 4.
But he says math is hard, so maybe he really means it? I'm honestly not sure.
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Graham is recruiting really well, you should be pleased about that.
The South is going to be very tough with USC, UCLA, ASU, AZ duking it out and I think Colorado will grow more competitive.
Oregon is going to be very good for a few more years before the Kelly effect wears off completely. UW's advantage is the North will be weaker than the South and Petersen will be gaining momentum at the same time as Helfrich trails off. -
I don't hate him or his brother but that doesn't mean I can't call them fucking idiots.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Why do you hate his brother?CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Sounds like PLSS has multiple personalities and they're both pretty fucking stupid.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Puppy has never made a stupid post, and id agree if I ever did
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You should PM @IrishDawg22. He's got this place dialed in or something.Sundevil76 said:BallSacked said:
I guess some of that talk has to do with Phoenix becoming a TBS hot spot, but I don't see sleeping giant either. It's a terrible school in the middle of the desert. Home grown stars flee out of there at a high rate. UWs recruiting success under Dom James, per Mincys post here, was lock down in-state and carefully select SoCal guys that SC/UCLA ignored. I don't see ASU locking down in-state anytime soon. I think UW is more ideally suited to execute that, homegrown players are more prone to staying in state and CP obviously has his OKG system that worked at a high level in Boise.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
ASU is a very well coached team, probably the best coached/schemed team in the league right now. But I don't see them ever having top 3 or 4 talent.They take a lot of risks defensively with how much they blitz, and I think teams have started to figure that out. And they have benefitted, and will continue to benefit, from not playing both Oregon/Stanford in the same year the past 3 seasons.BallSacked said:
I guess some of that talk has to do with Phoenix becoming a TBS hot spot, but I don't see sleeping giant either. It's a terrible school in the middle of the desert. Home grown stars flee out of there at a high rate. UWs recruiting success under Dom James, per Mincys post here, was lock down in-state and carefully select SoCal guys that SC/UCLA ignored. I don't see ASU locking down in-state anytime soon. I think UW is more ideally suited to execute that, homegrown players are more prone to staying in state and CP obviously has his OKG system that worked at a high level in Boise.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
ASU is a very well coached team, probably the best coached/schemed team in the league right now. But I don't see them ever having top 3 or 4 talent.They take a lot of risks defensively with how much they blitz, and I think teams have started to figure that out. And they have benefitted, and will continue to benefit, from not playing both Oregon/Stanford in the same year the past 3 seasons. -
Graham is recruiting well, but not as well as the two LA schools or Oregon over the past 3 years. Even Stanfors over the past 3 years has recruited better.
Nearly all of the top Arizona players haven't been staying in state: Hundley, Devon Allen, Christian Kirk, Kyle Allen, Priest Willis, Kenny Lacy, all 3 of the Peat brothers, Casey Tucker the list goes on and on. -
TTJ said:
I have long been a proponent of the sleeping giant theory with ASU. Like Washington, ASU has some major institutional advantages.topdawgnc said:
Washington had some real powerhouses too.DerekJohnson said:
If you look at some of those ASU teams from the mid 1970s to the mid 1980s, there were some real powerhouses. That probably has something to do with the idea that it can be that way again.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
I wonder if that has something to do with expectations around here.
Of course, the whole idea of being a sleeping giant is that the fact you're asleep tends to eclipse every single one of Aubbie's iron laws. None of that shit matters when your entire program -- from administrators through coaches, players, and fans -- are napping.
For more on ASU's fugue state, here is a photo I took during late Q1 of UW's visit to Tempe in 2013 (the "the cancer won" game). This was a late season clash played in perfect weather between two teams with a lot left to play for. And yet somehow the (also dormant) visitors brought more fans to the game than ASU did.
I suspect Graham is going to have to post a lot more winning seasons before folks wake up down there.TTJ said:
I have long been a proponent of the sleeping giant theory with ASU. Like Washington, ASU has some major institutional advantages.topdawgnc said:
Washington had some real powerhouses too.DerekJohnson said:
If you look at some of those ASU teams from the mid 1970s to the mid 1980s, there were some real powerhouses. That probably has something to do with the idea that it can be that way again.RoadDawg55 said:I don't really get the sleeping giant stuff with ASU.
I wonder if that has something to do with expectations around here.
Of course, the whole idea of being a sleeping giant is that the fact you're asleep tends to eclipse every single one of Aubbie's iron laws. None of that shit matters when your entire program -- from administrators through coaches, players, and fans -- are napping.
For more on ASU's fugue state, here is a photo I took during late Q1 of UW's visit to Tempe in 2013 (the "the cancer won" game). This was a late season clash played in perfect weather between two teams with a lot left to play for. And yet somehow the (also dormant) visitors brought more fans to the game than ASU did.
I suspect Graham is going to have to post a lot more winning seasons before folks wake up down there. -
Fix that and they have a chance. Without it, none. They need to keep the elite guys in state because they are still lower on the pecking order in California and Texas.BallSacked said:Graham is recruiting well, but not as well as the two LA schools or Oregon over the past 3 years. Even Stanfors over the past 3 years has recruited better.
Nearly all of the top Arizona players haven't been staying in state: Hundley, Devon Allen, Christian Kirk, Kyle Allen, Priest Willis, Kenny Lacy, all 3 of the Peat brothers, Casey Tucker the list goes on and on. -
As for going to the last game in Tempe and seeing more Husky fans, the reason is obvious if you have half a brain. Pretty much 50% of the Pacific Northwest and Western Canada lives part of the year in Phoenix playing golf over the age of 60. They clog our highways and cause accidents, talking about how wonderful Tacoma or Seattle is but then why are they here playing golf in shorts soaking in the sun? I saw one old duffer just last week wearing a Washinton Rose Bowl sweat shirt from decades past.Doubt many local people from Arizona wanted to attend the game this year with 60 mph winds and rain. Great city but not a destination for most during football season.
