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"If you are not thinking about how to improve,'' Mullens said amid a sea of Oregon Ducks apparel inside Disneyland, "you will get lapped.''
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History doesn't mean shit. The only people who really fucking care about yesterday are the people fucking the dog today. It's like the class thing. Comes out of the mouths of the losers. Or fucktard ideas - like Iron Laws - that come out of the mouths of retards.
I'll bet Peterman constantly re-evaluates, even after success. So you know he is re-evaluating every fucking thing down to the tiniest detail of travel logistics.
Successful people never fucking rest and are never truly satisfied, and when they become satisfied, when they don't really give a shit anymore, then they know they have to leave because they know they're on their way to loser town. Witness Jimmy Johnson.
If this is really how Oregon runs their show, they're not going anywhere. This is why Helfrich will either continue to win or be let go.
Iron Law - the only Iron Law in success is keep working your fucking ass off or you get fucked in it.
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The only people who believe oregon is leaving any time soon probably eats everything Kimmer was spewing about oregon sanctions. They are loaded with money, don't care about spending it, and they have appeal to kids. Oh yeah, and they win and win and win.
This is why sark needed to go, he was constantly looking to pat himself on the back and fill a chilly glass of patron. -
exactly. constantly looking to pat himself on the back for smoke and mirrors results. playing Oregon "competitive". My ass. Chip had Sark right where he wanted him and wanted him to stay there much as I want him to stay at SC. The Kelly teams could have run the score into the 80s if he'd wanted to.FreeChavez said:The only people who believe oregon is leaving any time soon probably eats everything Kimmer was spewing about oregon sanctions. They are loaded with money, don't care about spending it, and they have appeal to kids. Oh yeah, and they win and win and win.
This is why sark needed to go, he was constantly looking to pat himself on the back and fill a chilly glass of patron.
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Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there. -
Whistling past the graveyard POTDHeretoBeatmyChest said:Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there.
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If we're going to be honest, Lambright fell off right away (7-4, 7-4)HeretoBeatmyChest said:Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there. -
Every juggernaut program looks unstoppable until the 1 fuck-up hire. Convenient that Oregon is immune to that.
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What if we want to lie to ourselves?DerekJohnson said:
If we're going to be honest, Lambright fell off right away (7-4, 7-4)HeretoBeatmyChest said:Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there. -
Axe PLSSCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
What if we want to lie to ourselves?DerekJohnson said:
If we're going to be honest, Lambright fell off right away (7-4, 7-4)HeretoBeatmyChest said:Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there.
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Lambright truly should have been fired when Kenny Wheaton crossed the 50.DerekJohnson said:
If we're going to be honest, Lambright fell off right away (7-4, 7-4)HeretoBeatmyChest said:Helfrich just needs more time. Most guys who are promoted after a great coach suddenly leaves fall off in years 4-5. We are seeing it with Shaw now. Lambright, Coker, and Solich are other examples.
Oregon as a big time program certainly isn't going anywhere for a few more years. But lets see where Helfrich is in 2-3 years when the Kelly influence is completely gone and its 100% Helf's show.
And by the way hiring a championship coach is very difficult. Having high expectations doesn't necessarily mean you are going to higher a top flight coach or stay on top. Look at how much Alabama, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Miami, UW, etc have fucked up in recent decades. Look at your Canes. They had a fucking amazing run for 20 years. They were historically probably the clear #1 program after 2002. Yet from 06-14 they've lost 4 games every year.
Oregon has a run that UW and many other programs have never had. But odds are Helfrich is going to trail off eventually. And as history shows, big time programs do not always make great hires. It's difficult and not an exact science. Highly unlikely there will be a Meyer to Ohio St, Harbaugh to Michigan or Pete to UW type hire there. -
I'm definitely not counting on an Oregon demise, but Alabama sucked before Saban, Florida sucks now. Same with Texas. It can happen to anyone.
