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Pre-Spring Outlook for Next Two Years
Auburndawg
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Spring is going to be especially fascinating this year because we will see who gets added to the depth chart to replace the guys who are leaving. For 2015 there are lots of question marks, but you can see that by 2016 we will be stacked with experienced players who have been fully Petersen-trained.
This shows the guys returning based just on the depth chart released for the WSU game, and their class standing in 2015:
WR Does anyone else crack this group?
Pettis SO
Mickens SR
Taylor JR
Lenius SO
Hall SR
OL You need 8, we only have 4 experienced guys coming back
Eldrenkamp JR
Shelton SO
Tufunga SR
Charles SR
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QB/RB Does anyone beat Miles out? Who is the backup? Who backs up the returning RBs?
Miles JR
Williams/Lindquist/KJ C-S/Browning?
Washington JR
Coleman SO
Cooper?
TE
Perkins SR
Daniels JR
DL You need 7. I see 6, but none are proven starters
Mathis JR
Tupou SR
Qualls SO
Finau SR
Wooching JR
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LB You need at least 5. I see 6 possibilities now, but most are unproven
Bierria SO
Feeny SR
Littleton SR
Lawyer JR
Victor SO
Constantine SO
DB We are stacked here for the next two years at least
Kelly JR
Walker JR
King JR
Baker SO
Ross JR
Jones SO
Hale SO
Beaver JR
So next year we will be building depth and experience on the OL, and the defensive front 7, but look how few SRs we lose after next year. The guys who get added to this list will come from the classes of 2013, 14, and 15, and will all be around for the 2016 season.
If Petersen is who we think he is, 2015 should be good. 2016 should be huge.
This shows the guys returning based just on the depth chart released for the WSU game, and their class standing in 2015:
WR Does anyone else crack this group?
Pettis SO
Mickens SR
Taylor JR
Lenius SO
Hall SR
OL You need 8, we only have 4 experienced guys coming back
Eldrenkamp JR
Shelton SO
Tufunga SR
Charles SR
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QB/RB Does anyone beat Miles out? Who is the backup? Who backs up the returning RBs?
Miles JR
Williams/Lindquist/KJ C-S/Browning?
Washington JR
Coleman SO
Cooper?
TE
Perkins SR
Daniels JR
DL You need 7. I see 6, but none are proven starters
Mathis JR
Tupou SR
Qualls SO
Finau SR
Wooching JR
?
LB You need at least 5. I see 6 possibilities now, but most are unproven
Bierria SO
Feeny SR
Littleton SR
Lawyer JR
Victor SO
Constantine SO
DB We are stacked here for the next two years at least
Kelly JR
Walker JR
King JR
Baker SO
Ross JR
Jones SO
Hale SO
Beaver JR
So next year we will be building depth and experience on the OL, and the defensive front 7, but look how few SRs we lose after next year. The guys who get added to this list will come from the classes of 2013, 14, and 15, and will all be around for the 2016 season.
If Petersen is who we think he is, 2015 should be good. 2016 should be huge.
Comments
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The year after next year's team
That's his third year.
I expect a lot better this coming year -
O-Line, Dane Crane.
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Add Brostek to OL.... redshirted this year.
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Brostek has an odor of flameout about him. Hope I'm wrong.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Add Brostek to OL.... redshirted this year.
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I can't wait to see player development.
Haven't seen that since Neu was coaching. -
Crane, Brostek, and lots of other guys are possibilities, but they haven't played yet.
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Crane's film was good, really good.Auburndawg said:Crane, Brostek, and lots of other guys are possibilities, but they haven't played yet.
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Race, I think year 3 is when we find out if Chris Petersen is or is not the next great Husky coach.RaceBannon said:The year after next year's team
That's his third year.
I expect a lot better this coming year -
Who the fuck is Auburndawg?
BTW, does Kim know you post here? Bannable offense. -
The roster management by the previous staff was such a piece of crap that 2015 was always going to be a problem no matter who was coaching. I honestly don't know how someone could fuck up that bad, but they managed to do it.
I think you could see something like 5-4 in conference next year and actually say it is a good year considering the circumstances. I would love to get to 6-3. My hope is that we see a team that actually functions as a team. This year we beat the teams we were supposed to beat, next year I hope the progress is to continue that, but add on an upset or two. That will be what I look for, and then springboard to 2016. -
Just 3 weeks ago half of you retards were saying next year is going to be a disaster.
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Classic.MikeDamone said:Who the fuck is Auburndawg?
BTW, does Kim know you post here? Bannable offense.
Race's name came up on DM recently too.
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Fair pooint. What say you?MikeDamone said:Just 3 weeks ago half of you retards were saying next year is going to be a disaster.
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Did they bring up my name and pass it around. Or were they talking me down.Auburndawg said:
Classic.MikeDamone said:Who the fuck is Auburndawg?
BTW, does Kim know you post here? Bannable offense.
Race's name came up on DM recently too.
They don't remember the happy days when they did their thing and I did mine
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Same as always. 18-20 gamesGrundleStiltzkin said:
Fair pooint. What say you?MikeDamone said:Just 3 weeks ago half of you retards were saying next year is going to be a disaster.
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I'm hearing some were waxing nostalgic about you and DFI. It's just what I'm hearing, so don't be a twister.RaceBannon said:
Did they bring up my name and pass it around. Or were they talking me down.Auburndawg said:
Classic.MikeDamone said:Who the fuck is Auburndawg?
BTW, does Kim know you post here? Bannable offense.
Race's name came up on DM recently too.
They don't remember the happy days when they did their thing and I did mine
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Brostek played as a true frosh.Auburndawg said:Crane, Brostek, and lots of other guys are possibilities, but they haven't played yet.
Not blatantly telling mistruths superiority guy.
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That's 4 to 6 games into next year. Sounds like we both expect to see something in 2015MikeDamone said:
Same as always. 18-20 gamesGrundleStiltzkin said:
Fair pooint. What say you?MikeDamone said:Just 3 weeks ago half of you retards were saying next year is going to be a disaster.
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Not a disaster, but certainly a rebuilding year when you have 1 returning starter on the OL and none on the DL. Another year of treading water where hopefully there is notable improvement from beginning to end.MikeDamone said:Just 3 weeks ago half of you retards were saying next year is going to be a disaster.
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If I wasn't so lazy it would fun to look up what we lost in 1999. We were 7-5. Went 11-1 Rick's 2nd year.
Not saying we'll go 11-1. Just that a 2nd year leap is not unheard of.
I expect a better product all around next year. Who ever is here. Recruits and development trump age these days. Oregon was quite young this year -
Off the top of my head, Lester Towns at LB, Jermaine Smith at CB, Gerald Harris at WR, Chris Juergens retired. I guess Mo Shaw was a contributor at RB, but that wasn't really a big loss.RaceBannon said:If I wasn't so lazy it would fun to look up what we lost in 1999. We were 7-5. Went 11-1 Rick's 2nd year.
Not saying we'll go 11-1. Just that a 2nd year leap is not unheard of.
I expect a better product all around next year. Who ever is here. Recruits and development trump age these days. Oregon was quite young this year
The 2000 team was experienced and had a lot of good players returning. It also had the best QB in the conference. WR was the only true weakness. That team had a lot of good seniors.
I disagree about age not being important. If you have a team with Alabama talent you can get away with being young. It's different at UW. Young skill players are fine. Young and inexperienced lines are problematic. Not to mention, the talent Sark brought in at OL has been worse than other positions.
You use Oregon as an example, but Oregon has a lot of older guys who have played a lot on teams that have won. Mariota, Grassu, Fisher, Stevens, Ekpre-Omlumu, Mathis, Hill. They had four returners back on the OL, but we all saw how shitty they were with Fisher out. UW will have a patchwork OL to begin with. One or two injuries and they are likely completely fucked.
The seniors next year at UW are pretty bad. Charles is supposedly a draft worthy guard (I've never been that impressed) and Feeney will maybe be drafted as a LB and special teams ace. The rest of them (Mickens, Perkins, Littleton, Tufunga) have slim chances at best. -
Will Dissly should figure in on the DL unless they sit him in 2015.
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Yeah, that turned out to be a waste of a redshirt.section8 said:Will Dissly should figure in on the DL unless they sit him in 2015.
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Oregon crying about missing a lineman is so Oregon. Like nobody else ever lost linemen. UCLA list more but they don't make excuses for losing.RoadDawg55 said:
Off the top of my head, Lester Towns at LB, Jermaine Smith at CB, Gerald Harris at WR, Chris Juergens retired. I guess Mo Shaw was a contributor at RB, but that wasn't really a big loss.RaceBannon said:If I wasn't so lazy it would fun to look up what we lost in 1999. We were 7-5. Went 11-1 Rick's 2nd year.
Not saying we'll go 11-1. Just that a 2nd year leap is not unheard of.
I expect a better product all around next year. Who ever is here. Recruits and development trump age these days. Oregon was quite young this year
The 2000 team was experienced and had a lot of good players returning. It also had the best QB in the conference. WR was the only true weakness. That team had a lot of good seniors.
I disagree about age not being important. If you have a team with Alabama talent you can get away with being young. It's different at UW. Young skill players are fine. Young and inexperienced lines are problematic. Not to mention, the talent Sark brought in at OL has been worse than other positions.
You use Oregon as an example, but Oregon has a lot of older guys who have played a lot on teams that have won. Mariota, Grassu, Fisher, Stevens, Ekpre-Omlumu, Mathis, Hill. They had four returners back on the OL, but we all saw how shitty they were with Fisher out. UW will have a patchwork OL to begin with. One or two injuries and they are likely completely fucked.
The seniors next year at UW are pretty bad. Charles is supposedly a draft worthy guard (I've never been that impressed) and Feeney will maybe be drafted as a LB and special teams ace. The rest of them (Mickens, Perkins, Littleton, Tufunga) have slim chances at best.
If Peterman can recruit and develop like I think he can we'll see it even next year.
I agree with most of your post and am not trying to be argumentitive. We have talent gaps. -
I believe that we'll get by on defense and the Oline will be adequate. QB scares the crap out of me.
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I think we should do better in 2015 and will begin to see Peterman's program begin to flower. I agree that he was left with a shitty roster, but his recruiting can fix that.
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You forgot Dissly, dipshit.
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Everyone seems to have missed Ossai
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Petersen is a proven championship coach who will be successful here. He's recruiting too well and is too good at developing talent for it not to happen. As my research showed, big time programs often find out in year 2 while for other schools its year 3-4. So Aubbie and Damone go fuck rather than making the same stupid time proclamations like a broken clock.
As for next year I might give my left nut right now for 6-3 in conference. @USC, @ASU, @Stanford, @OSU. Probably favored in 1. Home- Cal, Utah, UO, AZ, WSU. Maybe favored in 3. Probably 4-5 on paper. Petersen effect was -1 this year maybe its +1 next year and we are 5-4. Could lose to Boise. Thats 7-5.
The biggest questions are QB and OL. If Miles makes a huge leap and the OL is rebuilt somehow, then we could be better than expected and in really good shape for 2016.
The metrics will tell us a lot. We are 35 in SRS right now. If we are similar next year, we'd be in position to jump to top 20 in year 3 and compete nationally in year 4. -
WTF happened to Tupou thus year? Did he get hurt? Guy fell off the face of the earth
