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Cyler Miles, and Are We Doomed At QB?
PurpleReign
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What are your thoughts on Cyler and the QB position? Any hope in the near future?
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His name is Browning, and he is rail thin.
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I'm hearing he has a cannon for an arm!
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I've heard that he is afraid of competition. Not a LPTKG.Swaye said:His name is Browning, and he is rail thin.
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The offense this year has been so damned painful to watch. It's mind bottling. Miley has me seriously considering a propofol drip.
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I was worried when I saw him in the All-American game. He looked like a stud, man was I wrong.
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Browning arrives on campus next month, in time for the winter weight sessions. Wonder how weight he'll put on between now and fall camp.Swaye said:His name is Browning, and he is rail thin.
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There is hope. Remember he was kicked off the team during Spring Ball and did not get a chance to practice with the team until fall camp. He had very little time to prepare in a brand new system. He still needs to prove himself but you have to give him a little more time to develope.
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He has descent stats on the year. A 65% completion rate is good. Low interceptions, with just 2 in 10 games. Seems like missing out on the off-season may have set him back some. Hopefully they will let him sling it around some more so he can produce some more offense.
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Too much war imagery.PurpleJ said:I'm hearing he has a cannon for an arm!
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Have you guys actually watched him play? Stats are for losers and so are excuses. He plays scared and his mind freezes against the rush. Lindquist didn't throw interceptions either because his ball is as uncatchable as Miles grounders
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He plays better when expectations are relaxed at the end of halves or when they're getting beat. But that's a pretty small "but still".RaceBannon said:Have you guys actually watched him play? Stats are for losers and so are excuses. He plays scared and his mind freezes against the rush. Lindquist didn't throw interceptions either because his ball is as uncatchable as Miles grounders
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Motherfuckers better get ready for Miles the next two years. I'm hoping Williams or Browning steps up because I don't think Miles has the juice, but there's a decent chance Miles is gonna be the guy next year as well, whether or not we think he has a chance to be a good QB.
I'd like to see what Williams can do in weather that isn't a windstorm.
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don't count out The Hyphen.......
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Here we goDonaldJones said:There is hope. Remember he was kicked off the team during Spring Ball and did not get a chance to practice with the team until fall camp. He had very little time to prepare in a brand new system. He still needs to prove himself but you have to give him a little more time to develope.
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Browning is not in my area that I scout so I have not seen much of him. But I will try and get some information a watch some film on him and give you guys my opinion.
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What you like about Miles is that he has shown an ability to have a relatively high completion rate and low INT rate.
What you don't like about Miles is that he tends to have a paralysis by analysis effect, doesn't anticipate throws well, and his yards per attempt/completion numbers tells me that his completion percentage numbers are probably a little misleading.
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I understand exactly where you guys are coming from and trust me he has to prove to me that he has the poise to stand in the pocket under pressure and make the accurate throw and the right decision. But let's face it, based on the other 2 QB's i have seen it's clear he is our best option right now. So let's see how he performs during the last few games before we write him off. We are not going to the rose bowl so let see how these kids develop under Coach Pete.
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PurpleJ said:
I'm hearing he has a cannon for an arm!
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It could be worse at QB. We could be starting a FR walk-on who *isn't* an ESPN top 150 recruit... like the Cuogs.
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Cyler will be a gamer come this time next year.
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That throwing motion is broken. He throws like an old man with an arthritic shoulder.
As long as that throwing motion is there, his potential is limited in my opinion. Slow release with below average velocity - he will have to be excellent with post-snap reads and throwing with anticipation to be an an above average pac12 QB. -
Which clearly he isn't.BallSacked said:That throwing motion is broken. He throws like an old man with an arthritic shoulder.
As long as that throwing motion is there, his potential is limited in my opinion. Slow release with below average velocity - he will have to be excellent with post-snap reads and throwing with anticipation to be an an above average pac12 QB. -
The odd thing about Miles is when he shows confidence,knows where to go with the ball and steps in to his throws....that delivery gets a whole lot shorter and quicker,the ball gets out there pretty quick...problem is it's only showing up on 2-3 throws out of 10? Half his throws are so ugly it's hard to figure out if he's got what it takes mentally,don't know that I've ever seen a QB that looks pretty solid both passing and running and two plays later look like a back up walk on who can't run or throw at all
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I just want to see results and improvements and in the last 2 weeks he has done that. Like I said 2 weeks ago let's this play out before you write him off. Tim Tebow passed for almost 10,000 yards in SEC with 66% completion rate and he has the worst throwing motion I ever seen. What you guys are comparing him to is NFL standards and right now his game may not be suited for the NFL but He can be a very good College QB with his skill set. Again, because of all the time he has missed I just want to see him get better and improve each week and so far he is doing that.
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I'm coming around Donald. He's always going to be limited by his lack of arm strength but he's showing improvement on the mental side. His short throws have improved a ton because he's not panicking and he made several great ones yesterday where he knew a hit was coming. Poise either shows up or it doesn't and his seems to be coming around. That was a really good performance last night. We tend to brush it off and attribute it to the Beavs not being very good, but the truth is that their defense is not bad relative to the rest of the conference. I've accepted that Miles just played real well last night after sleeping on it.DonaldJones said:I just want to see results and improvements and in the last 2 weeks he has done that. Like I said 2 weeks ago let's this play out before you write him off. Tim Tebow passed for almost 10,000 yards in SEC with 66% completion rate and he has the worst throwing motion I ever seen. What you guys are comparing him to is NFL standards and right now his game may not be suited for the NFL but He can be a very good College QB with his skill set. Again, because of all the time he has missed I just want to see him get better and improve each week and so far he is doing that.
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I don't think anyone can make the argument Cyler has not gotten a lot better the last couple weeks, it's good to see. But man, he still drives me nuts with his fumbles and mental decisions. I really hope he figures it all out.
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There is NO reason to be doomed at QB. Just go get and COACH a good one.
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You can get a pretty good QB for a Camaro
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I don't think Miles is completely broken at QB. I don't think his ceiling is at an elite level with the arm so he'll have to supplement what he does with his legs and intangibles to become elite. Tebow is a great example of someone that didn't have an elite arm but had the legs and intangibles in spades that allowed him to be an elite college QB.
I'm liking that we're seeing improved decision making. The throw that he made when scrambling and then hitting the WR on the sideline was a massive improvement. There are plenty of plays to make down the field in those situations. Also gives me hope that the game might be slowing down for him a bit.
I would like to see him be a little more nuanced with his ability to manipulate and read coverages. If you look at the GIFs that Grundle posted of some of the major plays Miles made in the passing game, it looks like he locked onto the WR in those instances. There was a throw that Wilson made to Lockette in yesterday's Seahawk game that showed how nuanced you can get by looking off a defender with your eyes or body positioning. It's an area where Miles can definitely improve in.
I still worry about Miles with his ability to throw into tight spaces and in anticipation. But those are things that you can grow in as you get more confident and the game slows down a bit. Growing up and taking more accountability from a leadership perspective would also be helpful. At this point, his body language doesn't inspire confidence. -
Falk >>>>>>>> Halliday and Miley though.sarktastic said:It could be worse at QB. We could be starting a FR walk-on who *isn't* an ESPN top 150 recruit... like the Cuogs.
