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    doogvilledoogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,183
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    The explosion in the cost of education is another indirect result of the massive credit bubble which itself came about after going off the gold standard in the early 1970s. Credit makes things more accessible to everyone but it also pushes up the cost. 0% rates and no standards made it so everyone could get a mortgage. Guess what? Housing went into a bubble where the average person was hurt and home ownership rates plummeted.

    Why is education so expensive? Because any asshat can get a fucking student loan. More people are attending college, more demand = higher costs. Very similar to the housing bubble.

    Want education costs to stop rising? Abolish student loans. How do students pay then? Easy. Scholarships is one route. Going to a local community college and working a part time job is another route before transferring. You'd take your education very seriously and study something that would payoff in the real world. Also by paying for it yourself you would take it a lot more seriously.

    Making college accessible to kids is not the problem. The GI bill helped millions go to college, without any insane spike in tuition costs.

    The MASSIVE cuts to state and federal susidies is driving tuition increases. As republicans hacked away at government support of institutions of higher learning, tuition increases have made up the gap.
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    Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,861
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    The state has shifted much of the funding burden on to the middle class types through tuition and fucktarded nickel and dime fees So if you're really a libertarian, don't complain...
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    priapismpriapism Member Posts: 2,036
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    TCC - $1360/Quarter
    http://www.tacomacc.edu/costsandaid/tuition/
    JC route, then transfer seems most cost-effective to me. + you can get rid of the hardest classes at the JC, then milk a high GPA at UW for grad school.

    UW Seattle - $3769/Quarter for WA resident
    http://opb.washington.edu/content/tuition-and-required-fees?year=2014-15&qtr=4&campus=0&category=1&res=1&submit=Submit
    $12,400/year
    https://admit.washington.edu/Paying/Cost#freshmen-transfer


    Student loans love to subsidize research. Good school rankings require a high amount of $$$ research - this research has to get referenced a lot by other University researchers in their own research...amount learned, not so important. Research rankings = circlejerk effect.

    Nationwide, the average undergrad student takes 5 and 1/2 years to finish undergrad.
    Total cost of UW undergrad tuition and fees for WA resident = $66,092...if you can finish "early" in 16 quarters.
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    MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
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    priapism said:

    TCC - $1360/Quarter
    http://www.tacomacc.edu/costsandaid/tuition/
    JC route, then transfer seems most cost-effective to me. + you can get rid of the hardest classes at the JC, then milk a high GPA at UW for grad school.

    UW Seattle - $3769/Quarter for WA resident
    http://opb.washington.edu/content/tuition-and-required-fees?year=2014-15&qtr=4&campus=0&category=1&res=1&submit=Submit
    $12,400/year
    https://admit.washington.edu/Paying/Cost#freshmen-transfer


    Student loans love to subsidize research. Good school rankings require a high amount of $$$ research - this research has to get referenced a lot by other University researchers in their own research...amount learned, not so important. Research rankings = circlejerk effect.

    Nationwide, the average undergrad student takes 5 and 1/2 years to finish undergrad.
    Total cost of UW undergrad tuition and fees for WA resident = $66,092...if you can finish "early" in 16 quarters.

    This looks good on an excel sheet but can be a losing investment in the long run in some STEM fields - unless the goal was to leach on to a mentor and spend your career in academia sniffing co-ed skirts ...

    Without the research money on site at UW I would have never applied from out of state. But I do realize B.S. from any other school with this field would be tough to make money without a Ph.D. (Marine Bio and QSci)

    Never would have had undergraduate peer reviewed pubs as a primary author going the cheap route at a CC. Those pubs put me at jobs that paid for my graduate degrees above folks that already had graduate degrees.

    Pretty difficult to develop the critical connections needed in some of those applied technical fields when the labs or programs don't know your name.

    Not impossible by any means .....but tricky to leap above the kids that have been running the professor labs while you were smoking dope skipping class and pulling a 4.0 at the CC.

    It was worth every fucking penny.... and you can still smoke dope and fuck off at the big boy campus.

    My $0.02
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