Now that I have been here a few days I offer this observation
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
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This is Washington (dammit). We don't celebrate three being 3 games over .500 in 3 years even if they were winning seasons. We expect excellence. Sark will not take us there.
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I'm giving you the "thumbs up" just for your signature alone.CollegeDoog said:This is Washington (dammit). We don't celebrate three being 3 games over .500 in 3 years even if they were winning seasons. We expect excellence. Sark will not take us there.
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*Christ*Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
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Mediocre seasons like the 7-6 trifecta got coaches fired when Washington still gave a fuck about football.Auburndawg said:
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
If you had told me after four years that Sark was getting a fifth year with a 26-25 record, I would have told you then that this program is fucked and it is time for another 0-12.
Guess what? I feel that way now too.
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Auburn, that's the same bullshit sentiment you read on dawgman every fucking day. And you forgot the 0-12 thing Aubs.
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IT'S YEAR FIVE! FUCK!Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
Agreed.
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
We have some good skill players, but the game is won in the trenches. We don't have Oregon, Stanford, or USC talent.
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
Again, we don't celebrate 3 games over .500.
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
It all starts at the top with the HC. DC's are generally interchangeable. The D may not be soft, but the offense is. Turning the ball over and flat out quitting when they get down on the road.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
Again, starts with HC. Sark was making the same mistakes he was made in 09, 10, and 11. The loss to WSU should have showed you that he is a bad coach.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
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But this is why we love Aubbie
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There is some serious talent (on paper) out there.
The stadium does look fantastic.
Nobody is arguing that stuff (much).
But 26-25 kinda drowns out any of that stuff to me.
Look, if you were told 5 years ago that we would have 1 shitty bowl win, be a .500 football team over the previous 4 years, and we're not picked in any preseason top 25s heading into year 5, would you be satisfied with that hire?
If the anaswer is yes, well, I have nothing else to say because you would be retarded and I don't like to poke fun at re re's.
If the answer is no, you would not be satisfied, then why are you holding out hope that Sark is the one?
The evidence is in counselor. Sark is what he is, a .500 football Coach who gives kick ass pressers that are all steak and no sizzle but pack a helluva Yoga and Meditation punch.
I mean, I could be wrong, but in Vegas the odds would be on my side that I'm right. Put it all on black (not racist). -
- Sark costing us a win or two evey year is a big deal. If this was MLB where they play 162 games then I wouldn't give a fuck. 1-2 wins a year in a 12 game schedule is a reason to get a new coach.Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
- The talent is nice and four straight ranked classes is a nice start. However, Washington has always been able to recruit well. Even under Ty he always had top 40 classes. The problem is no OL or DL plus lack of player development. Out of all those high profile WR's he's recruited only one is good and he is slow plus runs crappy routes.
- 3 straight winning seasons? Who gives a fuck? Lambo had 5 straight and was shit canned, Rick had 4 straight and was shit canned. Sark is only 26-25 which at his initial KICK ASS presser if someone told them he'd be 26-25 after four years even the biggest doogs out there would say that isn't acceptable. So why is it okay now?
- Who hired Holt? Who bragged how he hired the best defensive coach in the nation? Also our defense did improve but still got destroyed against LSU, Oregon and Arizona plus didn't play well vs WSU or Boise State.
- Has to improve? Ty had to improve too. He's had his time to improve. We've given him four fucking years to improve and he has proven he can't. You can't watch the 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 teams without telling one bit difference. -
You don't get it. Which surprises me..or maybe not.Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now. -
Someone posted the other day something to the effect that after the Kick Ass 'Sark gets it" Presser in 2008 that UW would be 7-6 in year 4 with a loss to the maybe the worst team in the nation and a bowl loss, most people would have said hell no, that isn't good enough and his ass should be gone. Now we are letting it play our and hoping to see 9 wins and then everything will be great.
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If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five! -
As someone noted yesterday after hearing the podcast "Here's all you need to know about how bad it's gotten over there: I'm two/thirds of the way in and you've already referenced AuburnDawg as a positive force on DM.c twice."
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Are there some who are too pessimistic? Probably. 0-12 does funny things to one's fandom. So does 7-6 > 7-6 > 7-6. And repeated top 25 classes filled with the same positions every year while those positions never seem to actually improve.
This bored has Sark's original fan, the guy who gave Jack Lockner his first printed fellatio and Wilcox's biggest fan. If Sark does anything to get excited about, there will be plenty of optimists here. Unfortunately, we're at year 5 and the best you have is a bunch of hypotheticals and preseason accolades.
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Well. Auburn brings diversity.
Long story short, in 2009 if I had know this, I would have put out a hit contract on the frat boy. It played out in 2011. The putrid performance in 2012 wasn't necessary to establish the state of the program.
I'm old school and delusional. The outline Auburn layed out confirms Husky football as I knew it is dead. If fans and major contributors behind the program accept his performance in any way, we are now Cal north.
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My favorite Sark moments so far.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZQ18QNCwE
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Nick Saban is glad you weren't his AD @ Mich St. 25-22-1 & 0-3 in "shitty" bowl games, and he regressed from 7-5 to 6-6.He_Needs_More_Time said:If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five!
Les Miles went 4, 8, 9 and regressed to 7 wins, before popping 11 in Yr 5 (Yr 1 @LSU)
Even DJ went 6, 5, 8, and 7 before popping out 10 in year 5.
Not saying Sark any of those guys as some will spin, and I would have had no problem with him getting fired in the 4th qtr of the AC.
But NO one here knows for certainty that the light won't click on and Sark pops out a good season with 9 or 10 wins.
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I agree with that. There is no certainty. There is, however, a high likelihood, which is really all we can go on about most anything in sports.IrishDawg22 said:
Nick Saban is glad you weren't his AD @ Mich St. 25-22-1 & 0-3 in "shitty" bowl games, and he regressed from 7-5 to 6-6.He_Needs_More_Time said:If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five!
Les Miles went 4, 8, 9 and regressed to 7 wins, before popping 11 in Yr 5 (Yr 1 @LSU)
Even DJ went 6, 5, 8, and 7 before popping out 10 in year 5.
Not saying Sark any of those guys as some will spin, and I would have had no problem with him getting fired in the 4th qtr of the AC.
But NO one here knows for certainty that the light won't click on and Sark pops out a good season with 9 or 10 wins.
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To play Devil's Advocate to you constantly playing Devil's Advocate what did Saban actually accomplish at Michigan State?IrishDawg22 said:
Nick Saban is glad you weren't his AD @ Mich St. 25-22-1 & 0-3 in "shitty" bowl games, and he regressed from 7-5 to 6-6.He_Needs_More_Time said:If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five!
Les Miles went 4, 8, 9 and regressed to 7 wins, before popping 11 in Yr 5 (Yr 1 @LSU)
Even DJ went 6, 5, 8, and 7 before popping out 10 in year 5.
Not saying Sark any of those guys as some will spin, and I would have had no problem with him getting fired in the 4th qtr of the AC.
But NO one here knows for certainty that the light won't click on and Sark pops out a good season with 9 or 10 wins.
Doogs always bring up Sark could be the next Saban. So does that mean Sark wins 9 games this year then LEAVE!?
Miles at Ok State didn't do much for that school either. As for James he did win a Rose Bowl in year three.
I can give a shit less if Sark becomes a great coach at another school. I care about what he is going to do at UW. Given 51 games of evidence I don't believe UW will ever compete for a Rose Bowl under him. -
That BYU line pass blocked just like Sark's Husky OLs pass block now.He_Needs_More_Time said:My favorite Sark moments so far.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZQ18QNCwE
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Great non-defense defense of Sark as always.IrishDawg22 said:
Nick Saban is glad you weren't his AD @ Mich St. 25-22-1 & 0-3 in "shitty" bowl games, and he regressed from 7-5 to 6-6.He_Needs_More_Time said:If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five!
Les Miles went 4, 8, 9 and regressed to 7 wins, before popping 11 in Yr 5 (Yr 1 @LSU)
Even DJ went 6, 5, 8, and 7 before popping out 10 in year 5.
Not saying Sark any of those guys as some will spin, and I would have had no problem with him getting fired in the 4th qtr of the AC.
But NO one here knows for certainty that the light won't click on and Sark pops out a good season with 9 or 10 wins.
Sure it's possible that he could be one of those guys, but right now he is Chan Gailey Junior. -
As long as Sark continues to do the bare minimum to keep his job, I'm happy. I have been a little concerned as of late, because Sark may actually be held to a standard for once. I want UW to win no fewer than 7 games, but no more than 8. Sark keeps his job, Doogs continue to live in denial, and the world will continue to be right.Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
My biggest fear is that UW wins 5, Sark gets the boot, and dumbfuck Woody stumbles into a great hire. -
You would think that after a decade of watching rivals want our coaches to stay forever, AuburnDawgFS would have learned something.greenblood said:
As long as Sark continues to do the bare minimum to keep his job, I'm happy. I have been a little concerned as of late, because Sark may actually be held to standard for once. I want UW to win no fewer than 7 games, but no more than 8. Sark keeps his job, Doogs continue to live in denial, and the world will continue to be right.Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
The December 2013 excuses are going to be special. -
I'm hearing Sark was having trust issues with Lavell Edwards that game.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That BYU line pass blocked just like Sark's Husky OLs pass block now.He_Needs_More_Time said:My favorite Sark moments so far.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZQ18QNCwE
andhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7e0Fx2Dxgk -
Sounds like Auburn is in the camp that Sark didn't really start as head coach until he fired his friends and hired Wilcox. Since we are in year 2, his posts makes some sense.
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What a dumb ass:
1- He sure lacked smarts as a QB when playing with the big dogs.
2- One would think, after the way he got smoked in this game (and others) because of his outclassed O line, that he'd understand the importance of O linemen.
One dumb mo foo.He_Needs_More_Time said:My favorite Sark moments so far.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZQ18QNCwE
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I take issue with the recruiting. It hasnt been good. I take issue with giving a guy credit for being forced to fire shitty coaches he hired. But I have no issue with you making non troll positive posts
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This post is in the ESPN 30 for 30 voice...Auburndawg said:If Dawgman is nothing but lollipops and rainbows, too many of you are nothing but razor blades and poison.
I agree Sark has underachieved and cost us a win or two every year. But....
New stadium is incredible
4 straight top 25 classes. There is some serious talent out there now
3 straight winning seasons. 3 straight bowl games. How would that have sounded to you back in 2007-2008?
And Sark pulled his head out, fired Holt, and hired some real D coaches. We gave up less than 300 points in the regular season last year for the first time since 2000. Our D is not soft, and might be very, very strong this year.
Sark has to improve. But what he did with the D last year gives me hope that he can learn and improve. This year will tell the tale.
"Let it play out" actually makes sense right now.
"What if I told you that a young coach was hired to take over a losing program? What if I told you that by year two there would be a Holiday Bowl victory? What if I told you that all fans were told that by 2013 the program would be special? What if I told you that by 2013, this program would be coming off three consecutive 7 and 6 seasons and would be ranked 45th in the Coaches Poll? Would you still consider that special? It's a riveting, heartwarming tale of incremental progress. Starring Steve Sarkisian and directed by AuburnDoog, the ESPN 30 for 30 Original, Moving the Goalposts."
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I'm looking forward to aubbie changing his mind several times in the next few days.
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After listening to, and observing Sark now for several years, does anyone really believe the "circuitry" is there for the light to suddenly click on?IrishDawg22 said:
Nick Saban is glad you weren't his AD @ Mich St. 25-22-1 & 0-3 in "shitty" bowl games, and he regressed from 7-5 to 6-6.He_Needs_More_Time said:If you are hired the right coach you don't have to "let it play out" or "wait and see" in year 5.
He will have already established himself. If UW had hired the right coach with the experience and talent that this roster has plus skipping USC we would talking Rose Bowl.
The fact that at BEST in year five this fuck only takes 3rd in his 6 team division says a lot. Most are picking UW to finish 4th in a 6 team division in year five!
Les Miles went 4, 8, 9 and regressed to 7 wins, before popping 11 in Yr 5 (Yr 1 @LSU)
Even DJ went 6, 5, 8, and 7 before popping out 10 in year 5.
Not saying Sark any of those guys as some will spin, and I would have had no problem with him getting fired in the 4th qtr of the AC.
But NO one here knows for certainty that the light won't click on and Sark pops out a good season with 9 or 10 wins.
He seems like a good guy but also seems clearly overwhelmed by his job at times.
I haven't seen the growth as a coach that would warrant keeping him any longer.
Not everyone is made to be out on the point.
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