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DoubleJDawg
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Re: the last 30 seconds, even day after I've been really struggling with your belief that this was the right call because we should have feared a 4th and 6 which they'd only go for if we called TO, and that our offense was so bad and no kickoff returns were returned long that day so giving us zero chance for either was better than a small chance, etc...
Today in the pole you expand that a bit to say that "most" coaches will make the same call in the coming weeks, which I take to mean you believe this was the right call regardless of any other factors
You seem pretty confident on this point - can you share some any examples from the past where a coach did something similar at the end of a game? Bonus points if the coach isn't fucktarded but any examples will do
Using the timeouts just seems such an obvious choice (and one we've seen countless coaches do in that situation) and would be great to see some examples of your counterpoint
Today in the pole you expand that a bit to say that "most" coaches will make the same call in the coming weeks, which I take to mean you believe this was the right call regardless of any other factors
You seem pretty confident on this point - can you share some any examples from the past where a coach did something similar at the end of a game? Bonus points if the coach isn't fucktarded but any examples will do
Using the timeouts just seems such an obvious choice (and one we've seen countless coaches do in that situation) and would be great to see some examples of your counterpoint
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I thought it was 4th and about 2 or so as Arizona ran the ball on 3rd down to pick up the first and got stuffed.
My general recollection is that facing similar situations coaches tend to let the clock run down. I'm sitting in a bar right now so I'm not in a position to go look up stuff from the past.
One thing to keep in mind is let's say that we call the timeout and then in our aggressiveness to block the kick we go offsides or commit some other penalty ... Then Arizona has 30 seconds and a timeout to get closer.
He made a 47 yard FG - kudos to him. -
No - it was 4th and 6 - just went back and checked it - Solomon got stopped for no gain. Does that change your opinion at all?
I'm curious why you think they would have only gone for it if we called TO - they run hurry up they probably get another play off in 10 seconds, or they could have used their own timeout -
It was really stupid. It shouldn't be argued. It's basic clock management. If he missed the 46 yarder, you kneel one time and the game is over.
Yesterday Tequilla said if Petersen called time out Arizona could have went for it. It was 4th down and Arizona was down 2 points. That should tell you all you need to know about what you are dealing with. -
I said that bc I thought it was 4th and short - opinion would not be the same at 4th and 6 about rich rod going for it.
The kick was going to decide the game - we weren't going to score if we called the timeout - no logical reason to think that we would. -
How do you not realize how stupid this is? Are you fucking kidding me?Tequilla said:I said that bc I thought it was 4th and short - opinion would not be the same at 4th and 6 about rich rod going for it.
The kick was going to decide the game - we weren't going to score if we called the timeout - no logical reason to think that we would. -
Which part?
KO goes through the end zone. Where is Miles going to find the 40 yards to get into FG range? Running a 2 minute drill requires command and leadership out of the QB position - not his strengths. -
We know the game was PROBABLY over. Miles likely would not have gotten into FG range. I give up. You're hopeless. You can believe what you want to believe.Tequilla said:Which part?
KO goes through the end zone. Where is Miles going to find the 40 yards to get into FG range? Running a 2 minute drill requires command and leadership out of the QB position - not his strengths. -
That would be one of my biggest criticisms for the coaching staff...call a TO there, save the TO on the kick (which could end up being reverse-psychology on a kicker expecting a TO freeze), and then have 1 or 2 left over for a desperation drive (important in case Miles runs a good distance on a passing down where Arizona is worried about a deep pass).
Yes, it's another "What If" counter-factual scenario but a 4% chance of winning the game is better than 0%.
But all of the penalties, the bad snap on the PATs, the sloppy fumbles are too Sark-esque and the pace of rooting that stuff out isn't happening fast enough. Since we lost, it's magnified 100x more.
Lost in all of coaching criticism, no one is talking about Miles barely progressing. Two stupid fumbles, a lack of throwing the ball to only where his WRs can catch it (not to mention Kendyl Taylor making him look good) and his whiny body-language after a few hits are reprehensible to me.RoadDawg55 said:
We know the game was PROBABLY over. Miles likely would not have gotten into FG range. I give up. You're hopeless. You can believe what you want to believe.Tequilla said:Which part?
KO goes through the end zone. Where is Miles going to find the 40 yards to get into FG range? Running a 2 minute drill requires command and leadership out of the QB position - not his strengths. -
Yeah we are down to the crux of it - sure feels like a losers mentality to give up a slim chance to come back to have no chance at all. Really hope that wasn't petermans reason...
@Tequilla would you have wanted TCU to do that if they were in that position? I'm betting you would have wanted them to call timeout... -
No, because Boykin and TCU have shown they can score quickly (sarcasm). The fact that Tequilla thinks Miles' ability has anything to do with why weDoubleJDawg said:Yeah we are down to the crux of it - sure feels like a losers mentality to give up a slim chance to come back to have no chance at all. Really hope that wasn't petermans reason...
@Tequilla would you have wanted TCU to do that if they were in that position? I'm betting you would have wanted them to call timeout...thinkknow Peterman made a fucktarded decision speaks volumes.
