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There is legitimate reason to be excited about the Husky defense

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
Sark and his merry band of yes-men makes me lament our offense, but year two under Wilcox, Sermon, Tosh and co. with a loaded LB corps, what should be a decent group of DBs, and Jake willing a healthy Shelton -- the defense should be pretty fun to watch.

Wait we probably won't have any modicum of a pass rush though, huh? Fuck. Nevermind.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    No DL plus with Sark running this hurry up bullshit our defense is going to get tired and worn out during this games.

    I expect a regression. Like Race said with UW just when you think you've fixed one problem and moved onto the next another problem pops up.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,628
    I'm frightened that a guy who has sat out 2 years with injury (Jamora/Kikane or whatever) has already leap-frogged Littleton,who last year leap-frogged our 1st round draft pick Josh Shirley for the rush end position. Why are we using this made-up position if we have no one who is any good at it? It's like playing with 10 guys on defense in exchange for 2 sacks a game
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    There are a lot of good pieces on the defense but the big issue will be finding the best 11 to play against the likes of Arizona, Oregon, and Arizona St. Against Stanford & OSU, you can sub more often and that benefits our D because we have enough personnel to fit the specific situation. However, against the others you can't do that. For example, it renders guys like Jamora and Shirley ineffective (good on passing downs but weak on rushing downs). Tutogi is good against Stanford but worthless against the other teams. Fuimaono has had a great camp but we'll have to see how they can fit him in.

    The defense was good at home so I'm not too worried about Boise or Arizona. Oregon and Arizona St are going to be trouble for the D while UCLA, OSU & Stanford will tell us if we have a top 20 defense or simply an above average defense.

    Hopefully Sark's shitty management of the offense doesn't tire out the defense. This is potentially a huge concern.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    What does it say about our program in year five that we have a guy who was playing TE the last 3 years now starting on our DL along with a true frosh starting on our DL. Then another guy who hasn't played a snap in two years also starting on our DL.

    Couple that with our lack of NFL prospects on the OL and that is why I'm not so excited about this year. Sark has neglected the beef on both sides of the ball and this year it is really going to show.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    What does it say about our program in year five that we have a guy who was playing TE the last 3 years now starting on our DL along with a true frosh starting on our DL. Then another guy who hasn't played a snap in two years also starting on our DL.

    Couple that with our lack of NFL prospects on the OL and that is why I'm not so excited about this year. Sark has neglected the beef on both sides of the ball and this year it is really going to show.

    If Sark's steakeater (lol!) neglect wasn't glaringly obvious long before this season then I really can't help you.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    dnc said:

    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    What does it say about our program in year five that we have a guy who was playing TE the last 3 years now starting on our DL along with a true frosh starting on our DL. Then another guy who hasn't played a snap in two years also starting on our DL.

    Couple that with our lack of NFL prospects on the OL and that is why I'm not so excited about this year. Sark has neglected the beef on both sides of the ball and this year it is really going to show.

    If Sark's steakeater (lol!) neglect wasn't glaringly obvious long before this season then I really can't help you.

    It has been obvious but this year I feel like for once this team has some expectations so when we go 7-6 again it will be glaring.

    This reminds me of those 2002 and 2003 teams that were always so hyped up because they had great skill players but no line doomed them.
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,425
    edited August 2013

    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    There are a lot of good pieces on the defense but the big issue will be finding the best 11 to play against the likes of Arizona, Oregon, and Arizona St. Against Stanford & OSU, you can sub more often and that benefits our D because we have enough personnel to fit the specific situation. However, against the others you can't do that. For example, it renders guys like Jamora and Shirley ineffective (good on passing downs but weak on rushing downs). Tutogi is good against Stanford but worthless against the other teams. Fuimaono has had a great camp but we'll have to see how they can fit him in.

    The defense was good at home so I'm not too worried about Boise or Arizona. Oregon and Arizona St are going to be trouble for the D while UCLA, OSU & Stanford will tell us if we have a top 20 defense or simply an above average defense.

    Hopefully Sark's shitty management of the offense doesn't tire out the defense. This is potentially a huge concern.

    Good points. I think a lot of people didn't appreciate how good Glenn was for our defense last year. He will not be easily replaced.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited August 2013
    There is No reason for optimism. Anything else I can help you with?

    (Shelton is the only good/proven/healthy linemen. The LBs and DBs may be good units, but it won't mean much without linemen.)
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    5 effing years and we've had 1 decent interior DL. O-N-E.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    The key for the defense is getting a pass rush. Without Trufant & Glenn, you really need to have a better pass rush to have the same pass D numbers as last season. The projected depth charts show that Joe Mathis could be starting as he said he would. Evan Hudson is also potentially a starter as is Jamora. There are some nice pieces there. Shelton is an all-pac 12 guy. Shirley and Jamora are productive pass rushers. Andrew Hudson had 4.5 sacks the last 6 games. I think the DL could be a positive surprise and we will see a better pass rush.

    What does it say about our program in year five that we have a guy who was playing TE the last 3 years now starting on our DL along with a true frosh starting on our DL. Then another guy who hasn't played a snap in two years also starting on our DL.

    Couple that with our lack of NFL prospects on the OL and that is why I'm not so excited about this year. Sark has neglected the beef on both sides of the ball and this year it is really going to show.

    It's like what Race says. One things fixed but there is a leak somewhere else...

    Accurate QB but no OL depth to protect him.

    Better defense but worse offense.

    Playmakers and depth at the skill spots but questionable OL & play calling.

    More than a handful of good players on the D but huge holes at safety and DT- the two most important D positions.

    Improved recruiting overall but no success in recruiting OL.