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Coaching Effect over the last 7 years

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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,710
    edited August 2013
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    AZDuck said:

    Hey, I just noticed you can flag AND down vote a comment. Abundance.

    disagree. Once you do the second it cancels out the first. Abundance lacking.

    He's right. You only get one shot.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Dammit... I was so excited about that. Well... I think this coaching effect thing has merit. Nice post from op
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,566
    edited August 2013

    Sark has been lucky to go 7-6 > 7-6 > 7-6. He's closer to a 4-9 coach than 9-4

    We're fucked.

    As I have always said: A 4 win coach + 10 win players = 7-6
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    Do we have 11 or 12 win players now and will get to 8-5 or 9-4? Or might the negative coaching effect be exacerbated by the presence of more depth and talent? As in 6 or 5 wins. Anything less than 9 regular season wins this year is unacceptable.

  • tracker
    tracker Member Posts: 866

    Good article on measuring the coaching effect over the last 7 years:

    http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2013/8/19/4635732/college-football-apparent-talent-coaching-effects

    To sum it up, the guy normalized talent rankings and then compared to wins. then ranked about 130 coaches spanning 7 seasons. He doesn't aggregate by coach, but i copied his numbers into excel and did it on my own. Turns out of the 130 coaches, steve sarksian is the 109th ranked coach out of 132 measured. believe it or not, Willingham is ranked 105. Fuck. So who is the better coach, Sarksian or Willingham? I thought it was pretty clear that Sark was better. Now i'm not so sure.

    For the record here are the TOP ranked coaches of the last 7 years:

    1) Sumlin
    2) Saban
    3) C. Kelly
    4) Jagodzinski
    5) T. Bowden
    6) Bielema
    7) Shaw
    8) B. Kelly
    9) B. Jones
    10) Beamer
    11) Gundy
    12) Leavitt
    13) Petrino
    14) B. Stoops
    15) Bellotti
    16) Tressel
    17) Dantonio
    18) Patterson
    19) Mangino
    20) Pinkel
    21) Riley

    Nice post.
    Anybody in the Top 100 available next year?
    Incremental Progress.

  • IMALOSER_
    IMALOSER_ Member Posts: 158
    tracker said:


    Good article on measuring the coaching effect over the last 7 years:

    http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2013/8/19/4635732/college-football-apparent-talent-coaching-effects

    To sum it up, the guy normalized talent rankings and then compared to wins. then ranked about 130 coaches spanning 7 seasons. He doesn't aggregate by coach, but i copied his numbers into excel and did it on my own. Turns out of the 130 coaches, steve sarksian is the 109th ranked coach out of 132 measured. believe it or not, Willingham is ranked 105. Fuck. So who is the better coach, Sarksian or Willingham? I thought it was pretty clear that Sark was better. Now i'm not so sure.

    For the record here are the TOP ranked coaches of the last 7 years:

    1) Sumlin
    2) Saban
    3) C. Kelly
    4) Jagodzinski
    5) T. Bowden
    6) Bielema
    7) Shaw
    8) B. Kelly
    9) B. Jones
    10) Beamer
    11) Gundy
    12) Leavitt
    13) Petrino
    14) B. Stoops
    15) Bellotti
    16) Tressel
    17) Dantonio
    18) Patterson
    19) Mangino
    20) Pinkel
    21) Riley

    Nice post.
    Anybody in the Top 100 available next year?
    Incremental Progress.

    Top 100? We are fucking Washington. I want a top 15......Bellotti!!!!
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    Who needs a coach in the top 100 when you have so much fucking house money!

    That list is fucking depressing btw. Hope Woodward drinks some gasoline and swallows a match. Today.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    Swaye said:

    Who needs a coach in the top 100 when you have so much fucking house money!

    That list is fucking depressing btw. Hope Woodward drinks some gasoline and swallows a match. Today.

    Thanks for that comment. I haven't had a belly roar in quite a while.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,710

    Swaye said:

    Who needs a coach in the top 100 when you have so much fucking house money!

    That list is fucking depressing btw. Hope Woodward drinks some gasoline and swallows a match. Today.

    Thanks for that comment. I haven't had a belly roar in quite a while.
    You're in the media room, I take it?