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puppylove_sugarsteel
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Maybe Petersen's 3-4* okg's might just damn be good enough to win with. Sark's 4-5* guys sure didnt work out so hot yoh little buttsniffing wino wannabe
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    How many 5* did Sark have?
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,400
    There's a ton of 1 loss teams so if they all win out, it should come down to who has the most impressive wins.
    RoadDawg55 said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    I think 3? That has always been one of the big myths. He really didn't get any more big time guys than other UW coaches.
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  • MrsPetersen
    MrsPetersen Member Posts: 724
    RoadDawg55 said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    I think 3? That has always been one of the big myths. He really didn't get any more big time guys than other UW coaches.
    Three: Shaq, ASJ, Kasen
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  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    edited October 2014
    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars on Rivals.
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    KenND said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    KenND said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars.
    This.

    And we paid 500k + a boat for Shaq.
    Kim and F3 got Chris Izbicki rated as a 5-star for gods sake.
    King County All-Stars.
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  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    RoadDawg55 said:

    KenND said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    KenND said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars.
    This.

    And we paid 500k + a boat for Shaq.
    Kim and F3 got Chris Izbicki rated as a 5-star for gods sake.
    You are giving Kim and F3 way too much credit. Scout know that they are idiots. They don't do the rankings.
    To be clear, I don't think that those two do the rankings. What I do think that they do is pressure the guys who are doing the rankings to inflate a ranking here or there in order to create some buzz and sell subscriptions. All of the team sites do it.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,501 Founders Club
    The who's who in Seattle sports
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  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    KenND said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    KenND said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    KenND said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars.
    This.

    And we paid 500k + a boat for Shaq.
    Kim and F3 got Chris Izbicki rated as a 5-star for gods sake.
    You are giving Kim and F3 way too much credit. Scout know that they are idiots. They don't do the rankings.
    To be clear, I don't think that those two do the rankings. What I do think that they do is pressure the guys who are doing the rankings to inflate a ranking here or there in order to create some buzz and sell subscriptions. All of the team sites do it.
    To add to this, the Chris Izbicki 5-star ranking was one of the most transparent examples of ranking inflation. I still see fans of other teams who follow recruiting mention it on occasion when talking about how retarded that Scout.com is.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    KenND said:

    KenND said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    KenND said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    KenND said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars.
    This.

    And we paid 500k + a boat for Shaq.
    Kim and F3 got Chris Izbicki rated as a 5-star for gods sake.
    You are giving Kim and F3 way too much credit. Scout know that they are idiots. They don't do the rankings.
    To be clear, I don't think that those two do the rankings. What I do think that they do is pressure the guys who are doing the rankings to inflate a ranking here or there in order to create some buzz and sell subscriptions. All of the team sites do it.
    To add to this, the Chris Izbicki 5-star ranking was one of the most transparent examples of ranking inflation. I still see fans of other teams who follow recruiting mention it on occasion when talking about how retarded that Scout.com is.
    I know Chris a little bit and played against him. He was never anything special. A solid high school player, nothing more.

    Fetters wrote articles on a kid from my high school team that was a third string TE who never caught a pass. He said the TE oozed potential. He got a two star ranking because he was 6'4" 220 and went to Barton and another regional combine and ran a 4.8.

    Zach Banner was another head scratcher. He had tons of offers too. I know he was huge and had great bloodlines, but I saw a 5'10" 200 pound kid from White River dominate him all game long. The kid from White River had like 3 or 4 sacks and a handful of other QB pressures and tackles for loss. At least he had some potential and started for USC, but I was shocked he was rated for high. The #11 ranked tackle should be dominant imo.
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  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    RoadDawg55 said:

    KenND said:

    KenND said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    KenND said:

    CuntWaffle said:

    KenND said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    How many 5* did Sark have?

    Depends on whether you want to use the Dawgman-inflated Scout.com rankings. Shaq was universally considered to be a 5-star. Kasen and ASJ were 4-stars.
    This.

    And we paid 500k + a boat for Shaq.
    Kim and F3 got Chris Izbicki rated as a 5-star for gods sake.
    You are giving Kim and F3 way too much credit. Scout know that they are idiots. They don't do the rankings.
    To be clear, I don't think that those two do the rankings. What I do think that they do is pressure the guys who are doing the rankings to inflate a ranking here or there in order to create some buzz and sell subscriptions. All of the team sites do it.
    To add to this, the Chris Izbicki 5-star ranking was one of the most transparent examples of ranking inflation. I still see fans of other teams who follow recruiting mention it on occasion when talking about how retarded that Scout.com is.
    I know Chris a little bit and played against him. He was never anything special. A solid high school player, nothing more.

    Fetters wrote articles on a kid from my high school team that was a third string TE who never caught a pass. He said the TE oozed potential. He got a two star ranking because he was 6'4" 220 and went to Barton and another regional combine and ran a 4.8.

    Zach Banner was another head scratcher. He had tons of offers too. I know he was huge and had great bloodlines, but I saw a 5'10" 200 pound kid from White River dominate him all game long. The kid from White River had like 3 or 4 sacks and a handful of other QB pressures and tackles for loss. At least he had some potential and started for USC, but I was shocked he was rated for high. The #11 ranked tackle should be dominant imo.
    so you're like 25 years old? damn, i thought you were a wise old football veteran. #BubblePopped
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  • MrsPetersen
    MrsPetersen Member Posts: 724
    I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

    Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,501 Founders Club
    Jake wasn't a 5 star?
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  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Cody Bruns as a 4 star will always be one of my favs. Another F3 classic.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    according to Rivals pac-12 recruiting rankings Washington vs. Arizona

    2010 UW 6 UA 9

    2011 UW 5 UA 8 *Stoops fired. UA posts 4-8 record

    2012 UW 5 UA 11 *Rich Rod hired in December, 2011. UA posts 8-5 record

    2013 UW 3 UA 7

    2014 UW 7 UA 6
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Go look at the #1 team in the nation right now (Mississippi State) and check out their recruits from the past classes. Most of their key contributors are 3* players
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,473 Founders Club
    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Maybe Petersen's 3-4* okg's might just damn be good enough to win with. Sark's 4-5* guys sure didnt work out so hot yoh little buttsniffing wino wannabe

    But what about Oregon state?! That's what I thought.
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  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam
    DerekJohnson said:

    Jake wasn't a 5 star?

    According to sark, Jake coming back for his senior year was a "10 star."

    How many coaches get 10 star recruits, haters?! Enough said on that.
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  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    MrsPetersen said:

    I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

    Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they retroactively changed Izbicki to a 4-star a year or more after that recruiting cycle. They used to get crap from people about that on the old Dawgman boards, and I am 100% sure that the top for TEs that year were 5-stars. They had him rated right behind Rob Gronkowski. Holy shit.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited October 2014
    KenND said:

    MrsPetersen said:

    I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

    Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they retroactively changed Izbicki to a 4-star a year or more after that recruiting cycle. They used to get crap from people about that on the old Dawgman boards, and I am 100% sure that the top for TEs that year were 5-stars. They had him rated right behind Rob Gronkowski. Holy shit.
    He was downgraded to a 4 star long before signing day.

    Conspiracy theories are fun, but you're full of shit.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I don't believe they had stars then. He was however a Seattle Times 'white chip' recruit... so there's that.
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  • KenND
    KenND Member Posts: 272
    dnc said:

    KenND said:

    MrsPetersen said:

    I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

    Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they retroactively changed Izbicki to a 4-star a year or more after that recruiting cycle. They used to get crap from people about that on the old Dawgman boards, and I am 100% sure that the top for TEs that year were 5-stars. They had him rated right behind Rob Gronkowski. Holy shit.
    He was downgraded to a 4 star long before signing day.

    Conspiracy theories are fun, but you're full of shit.
    Settle down. I didn't say that it happened, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I've seen guys lose stars and change to NR after recruiting is over. Either way, I stand by my opinion that Izbicki was only rated what he was to try and hype up UW's recruiting.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    KenND said:

    dnc said:

    KenND said:

    MrsPetersen said:

    I don't recall Chris Izbicki ever being a 5* and his final scout rating was a 4* (which was clearly pushing it too).

    http://washington.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=8&c=1&nid=2329304

    Kavario Middleton was the only 5* Tyrone ever got.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they retroactively changed Izbicki to a 4-star a year or more after that recruiting cycle. They used to get crap from people about that on the old Dawgman boards, and I am 100% sure that the top for TEs that year were 5-stars. They had him rated right behind Rob Gronkowski. Holy shit.
    He was downgraded to a 4 star long before signing day.

    Conspiracy theories are fun, but you're full of shit.
    Settle down. I didn't say that it happened, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I've seen guys lose stars and change to NR after recruiting is over. Either way, I stand by my opinion that Izbicki was only rated what he was to try and hype up UW's recruiting.
    I'm calling bullshit.

    And Izbicki was the #11 TE on ESPN and #13 on Rivals, while #4 on Scout. Four star recruit by all three services. If you follow recruiting at all, and you clearly do, you know that there is a much wider disparity between services on tons of recruits every year. Your conspiracy theory is just as fucking stupid now as it was then.
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  • SpoonieLuv
    SpoonieLuv Member Posts: 5,463
    Meek said:

    Jake was a 4* who should sue Sarkisian for about $48,000,000.

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