The arrow is pointing up for UW. No really, it is.

All trolling aside, I know that you guys don’t like ND, but I actually see a number of similarities between what you guys are going through now compared to what ND went through when Brian Kelly first arrived. A few things in particular that really stand out:

1. Petersen keeps repeating that there needs to be attention to detail. Brian Kelly took over for Charlie Weis, who ran the team like a resort, just like Sark. One of the first things that Kelly did was to preach an attention to detail, and it started with simply forcing the players to organize their lockers in a particular way instead of just throwing their shit everywhere. It then expanded into practice and on-field components.
2. The players resisted, and then outright revolted. I get the impression that some of what you’re seeing at UW right now is resistance to change from the upperclassmen who are Sark’s guys. They’ve had it easy and they’ll be damned if they’re going to change now. Kelly even had to put down an outright revolt from these guys, which culminated in year two with a loss to USC where our Cyler Miles (Dayne Crist) may or may not have intentionally blown the USC game by letting a goal line snap go through his legs, resulting in a TD for USC. I don’t know if you guys are going to get an outright revolt in the locker room like ND did, but you’re probably not going to completely turn the corner until the bad eggs move on through graduation/attrition.
3. Kelly brought in “his” guys. He actually calls them “RKGs” (Right Kind of Guys) instead of “OKGs” like Petersen does. Either way, Petersen needs to recruit his ass off and purge the garbage from the roster, and I think that he will.

I’m not saying that ND is the elite of college football right now or anything like that, but ND is a possible glimpse of Washington’s future because our paths are strikingly similar. We had our Lambo/Gilby (Bob Davie), replaced them with Willingham, and then hired a fat guy who was an OC that had never been a head coach (Sark/Weis) that turned out to be a bust before hiring an actual good coach in Kelly/Petersen.

You guys know that I don’t like UW, but Petersen is going to bring you guys back.

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Gladstone

Great post. Before you registered here, Ken, I posted extensively on the similarities between Sarkisian and Weis.

-- Both took over programs that the previous year had players 100% quit on Willingham
-- Both road the coattails of an elite coach as an OC
-- Both cheated when they were OCs at their respective schools (NE's Spygate, SC's LOIC)
-- Both had never been a headcoach before
-- Both never understood the emotions of CFB and weirdly had their teams celebrate winning and practice jumping around on the sidelines.
-- Both milked a year 1 loss for years and years to doomers and doogs alike (Weis vs USC 2005 bush push game, Sark vs LSU 2009 week 1)
-- Both had physically elite #10 QBs (Quinn and Locker) and propelled them to NFL draft-worthy status but both players subsequently plateaud and didn't pan out to anything in the NFL.
-- Both fired their DCs after 2-3 years in an attempt to save their own asses.
-- Both could recruit skill position guys but sucked at developing/recruiting the lines

The list goes on and on.

Dick_B

That's a damn good analysis, seems to be many similarities. I hope you are correct, Sir. Good Shiite on this thread.

If Petersen can't bring us back to relevancy in 3-5 years, I don't think it can be done, and we will fade further into the Marinerization of Husky football. Let us pray to Jesus_H_Christ that Petersen can do it.

FTG

PurpleJ

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.

This guy was coaching them.

KenND

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.

Another thing that ND and UW have in common. Excellent point.

creepycoug

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.
Another thing that ND and UW have in common. Excellent point.

I am not above enjoying the misery of others. I do not apologize for it either.

And one of the best and more recent instances of that for me was watching ND get completely undressed in a title game they shouldn't have been in. It was even more sweet than 2000, when OSU clobber fucked them in a game they REALLY had no business being invited to.

But it wasn't done there. Their latest faggy "love this special player because he's so special and awesome" story, which they never seem to run out of, turns out to be a weirdo and a pathological liar who hasn't lived up to his draft slot. Still some rumors out there that he's a closet twink, which would be perfect if it were to develop.

Another black eye for Notre Dame.

KenND

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.
Another thing that ND and UW have in common. Excellent point.
I am not above enjoying the misery of others. I do not apologize for it either.

And one of the best and more recent instances of that for me was watching ND get completely undressed in a title game they shouldn't have been in. It was even more sweet than 2000, when OSU clobber fucked them in a game they REALLY had no business being invited to.

But it wasn't done there. Their latest faggy "love this special player because he's so special and awesome" story, which they never seem to run out of, turns out to be a weirdo and a pathological liar who hasn't lived up to his draft slot. Still some rumors out there that he's a closet twink, which would be perfect if it were to develop.

Another black eye for Notre Dame.

Why would you need to apologize for enjoying the pain of others? It's why I'm here on HH, after all.

dnc

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.
Another thing that ND and UW have in common. Excellent point.
I am not above enjoying the misery of others. I do not apologize for it either.

And one of the best and more recent instances of that for me was watching ND get completely undressed in a title game they shouldn't have been in. It was even more sweet than 2000, when OSU clobber fucked them in a game they REALLY had no business being invited to.

But it wasn't done there. Their latest faggy "love this special player because he's so special and awesome" story, which they never seem to run out of, turns out to be a weirdo and a pathological liar who hasn't lived up to his draft slot. Still some rumors out there that he's a closet twink, which would be perfect if it were to develop.

Another black eye for Notre Dame.
Why would you need to apologize for enjoying the pain of others? It's why I'm here on HH, after all.

Gladstone

Please explain how 2012 ND didn't deserve to be in the title game. I look forward to shredding your argument into little pieces.

creepycoug

When was the last time Notre LAME won a natty?!!

That's what I thought.
Another thing that ND and UW have in common. Excellent point.
I am not above enjoying the misery of others. I do not apologize for it either.

And one of the best and more recent instances of that for me was watching ND get completely undressed in a title game they shouldn't have been in. It was even more sweet than 2000, when OSU clobber fucked them in a game they REALLY had no business being invited to.

But it wasn't done there. Their latest faggy "love this special player because he's so special and awesome" story, which they never seem to run out of, turns out to be a weirdo and a pathological liar who hasn't lived up to his draft slot. Still some rumors out there that he's a closet twink, which would be perfect if it were to develop.

Another black eye for Notre Dame.
Why would you need to apologize for enjoying the pain of others? It's why I'm here on HH, after all.

well played.

creepycoug

Please explain how 2012 ND didn't deserve to be in the title game. I look forward to shredding your argument into little pieces.

You talkin' to me?

Well, first, because they've had their table set so often in the past, what with free admission to bowl games they didn't belong in, they should have forfeited their first legitimate shot just for reparation.

Second, I don't like them.

Third, it took them 16 over-times to finally beat a 500 Pitt team that finished second to last in the weaker division of the worst conference in the BCS. They couldn't even beat Miami, which was and is on life support.

You couldn't shred chicken if I pressure cooked it for a week. But I will nonetheless enjoy watching you fumble around as you try to dismantle my fortress of logic and sound reasoning.

Jave

Brian Kelly is a good reference point. 8 wins, 8 wins, then 12 and a title game appearance. I also think year 3 will be when Petersen breaks through.

Yea that was a pretty impressive showing against Alabama.

KenND

Brian Kelly is a good reference point. 8 wins, 8 wins, then 12 and a title game appearance. I also think year 3 will be when Petersen breaks through.
Yea that was a pretty impressive showing against Alabama.

No matter how you slice it, getting hammered in the NC game is better than losing to Boise State in the Las Vegas bowl.

PurpleBaze

Brian Kelly is a good reference point. 8 wins, 8 wins, then 12 and a title game appearance. I also think year 3 will be when Petersen breaks through.
Yea that was a pretty impressive showing against Alabama.

No matter how you slice it, getting hammered in the NC game is better than losing to Boise State in the Las Vegas bowl.

Perfect the lawnmower, the pop off.

PurpleJ

It's sad to see how far Notre Dame has fallen.

KenND

It's sad to see how far Notre Dame has fallen.

Agreed.