Do you think this just happens by accident?
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There's something missing culturally in Seattle which is causes the inconsistency which isn't the case in Columbus. What is the cause of that and how do you change the culture?
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It was a different time. Massive sustained success was less of a thing and it was more cyclical. Young players were less ready to go - their lives probably weren't 24/7 football from the age of 5 and didn't leave high school early to go to college.
The NCAA seemed to also like to go after programs that were pushing boundaries and having too much success. Didn't they kind of force out Tressell over some comped tattoos? It makes sense because there's a lot of Michigan folks in sports media but it seemed like ESPN had a vendetta against Ohio State when they came back in the 2000s.
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In the 90s you'd win a national championship and go on probation and be THANKFUL for it
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When you look at the hires post Ty UW seems to care considering Sark is a highly regarded coach now, Pete will be in the hof, Jimmy was fired as fast as possible, Deboer won big, and Fisch TBD but he wasnt a lazy or uninspired hire and they might fire him if he sucks
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St. DeBoer really needed to win that game against Michigan. Fucking tragedy.
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I will die on a hill against repeated @RaceBannon human wave attacks that keeping DeBoer from going to Bammer was a bridge too far.
But to your point, I think there evidence that UW cares enough about football to try and be a consistent top 10- 15 program. We built the new stadium, hired Pete from BSU, fired a POC head coach for losing to Montana, and killed the Pac 12.
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It's a matter of not wanting to be UC Berkeley in every fucking respect. I know there are academics at UW who would be proud of what a middling football program would signal regarding priorities.
But I have to think that the people who write checks, who are not usually academics, are the people who want competitive football.
There's a third crowd … the tech crowd. They write BIG checks but they write them for engineering buildings. If they were to ever write a check for sports, it would be to construct a Quiddich field and practice facility. Or, more seriously, for some Olympic sports facility. To my knowledge, tech isn't in love with college football.
I remember Ballmer was flirting around the program for 5 minutes. Don't know whatever became of that but he's a pro sports guy. People at that level typically only fund what they can control. He also didn't go to school at UW so there's that limitation to his interest.
Gates. Pffft. That guy is too busy burnishing his image in a rescue attempt of the damage his rep took after the Epstein-caused divorce. His fucking ex-wife literally sold him out on that in a public interview. And he has never cared about sports. He aint' comin any time soon.
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I mean that's part of the heart of it. Upper campus would never let anyone else take control of sports but will also seldom give it anything but begrudging support.
I feel like there was a brief window where had we won a title some of that may have shifted. It's possible to be good at academucs and sports ball in this era.
Upper campus could learn that there's no such thing as bad publicity re winning titles.
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One thing I know
Oregon wins a national championship[ and Montlake gets stormed by the heathen crowds
It's like using a nuke though. Not sure it is worth the terrible cost of Oregon winning a natty
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Four out of the last five coaches UW hired were simply the best options who would take the job. Unfortunately the one time we made the one mistake and took the easy hire was when we were best positioned for long-term success and probably in a position to find someone who was both good and interested in being in Seattle long-term since we knew for maybe two whole years Petersen was burning out.
