Robert Redford sells the couch
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As the resident Sundance Film Festival superiority guy of the board, this one hurts.
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Time does not discriminate.
Sneakers is still my favorite movie ever.
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This has become a part of Americana. All sorts of references in other movies
We're going to go Butch and Sundance
But they died
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I still think he would have made a better Michael Corleone than the swarthy @creepycoug little person they went with!!
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Great flick.
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Way too waspy. It would be like Chuck Conners playing @Swaye
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One of the greats. I don't agree about him making a better Michael Corleone but you'll get no push back from me on him taking his place on Mount Rushmore.
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Saw a tweet where Redford was on the Twilight Zone in the 60s. Like Shatner. Maverick in 1960. Perry Mason in 1960
A remarkable career that has a movie for every generation that lasts to this day
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A blonde, playing a full blooded Sicilian? Ok!
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Whoosh.
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I had an old college professor who made herself wet talking about a young Robert Redford.
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Or course, Pacino, was the right choice for the role.
You know me though - I never turn down an opportunity to throw swarthy grenade at @creepycoug !!
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Can you blame her?
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I'll also add that Brad Pitt is a copy, not the original. This guy was the OG good looking fair haired icon.
My mom wasn't a big movie star ogling woman, but Redford and Ringo Star (don't ask; no explanation) were the two for her.
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For me, it was The Natural.
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I, no shit, have watched that movie at least 50 times, probably a lot more.
It never gets old. It was a poem in a movie. Iconic film.
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Downhill racer underrated Redford movie IMO.
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Disagree. Redford was a solid actor but no Mt. Rushmore. Never won an Oscar for acting. Handsome motherfucker, for sure (no homo). Best roles were in support of greats like Paul Newman and Dustin Hoffman.
Not hate speech. Don't get me fired.
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Even stronger disagree … with that list, which has Philip Seymour Hoffman at a laughable 27 behind Clint Eastwood (who I like btw) and Gene Hackman below Jeff Bridges (who I also like btw). It just goes to show you can't really rank these guys. Even De Niro and Pacino have been in movies that I didn't think were that great. I really didn't care for Pacino in Scent of a Woman, for example. Overacted.
Mount Rushmore for acting has to be a big mountain. Hard to nail it down to 2 or 3. Redford was a giant. The best roles comment falls down with The Natural by itself. And Jeremiah Johnson. And the OG Gatsby. And The Way We Were. And one-half (not mere support role) of All The President's Men and Butch & Sundance. Also deserves a huge shout out for A River Runs Through It, which he produced, directed and narrated. He also invested years getting Norman Maclean to agree to allowing his story to be made into a movie. And the Sundance Film Festival. Dude was a fucking TITAN.
Not all of his stuff was to my delicate tastes and sensibilities, but made every movie he was in better. I don't care about Academy Awards. Those people suck.
This is the guy Leonardo DiCaprio wants to be:
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Ralph Lauren says to fuck off btw. AMERICA's movie star. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to @PurpleThrobber bad mouth the United States of America!!!!!
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Still disagree.
The list was provided for example's sake. There are giants in acting.
Redford was Jay Buhner, not Mickey Mantle.
Ralph Lauren makes shirts.
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Oh for Christ's sake.
You provided the list and it was a shit example. If it's shit, don't point to it because it doesn't help your case.
You proffered the theory that his best work was in support roles and I gave you four big ones in which he was the main event. And his "support roles" were iconic in part because of him. Nobody ever says, "well anyone could have played next to Newman in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid." Literally nobody says that.
Ralph Lauren, love him or hate him, has played a major role in defining the collective sense of Americana fashion and style longer than you've been jerking off. He does a lot more than make shirts. You are probably wearing something right now that can be traced back to his influence.
Go back to bed wherever you are in Idaho with both of those replies and try again later. You sound like Roadie trying to cast yet another Miami perennial pro bowl player into the "he's just alright" role. At some point, when you're trying too hard you're trying too hard.
The Fucking Natural
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The competition for Mt Rushmore of his era is fierce. But Redford is definitely in the running.
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Jay Fucking Buhner indeed.
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Me and Bob, were about as close as could be without actually having met.
I've skied many times at his resort Sundance and experienced its fine dining. Eaten at his Park City restaurants too.
I went to about 4 or 5 Sundance Film Festival screenings over the years.
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You're the one saying he was Mt. Rushmore worthy. He wasn't and never will be. Sorry. Shifting goalposts - Mt Rushmore equals FOUR
Even with the list provided - not a chance in hell Robert Redford makes the Mt. Rushmore over this group of candidates.
Jack Nicholson
Marlon Brando
Robert De Niro
Al Pacino
Dustin Hoffman
Tom Hanks
Paul Newman
Denzel Washington
Jack Lemmon
Robert Duvall
Clint Eastwood
Gene Hackman
Let alone more current versions like Cruise, DiCaprio, Downey, Jr.
You got the part right about Redford and Pitt though. Same make, different model year.
Edit: Except Pitt plays different characters in his films. Not the same one every time.
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BTW, what you’re attempting to do is shift from a Mt Rushmore of acting to a Mt Rushmore of movie stardom
Not the same “range” (SWIDT)
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Did Creep say All Time Mt Rushmore or Mt Rushmore of his era? I'm saying he's in contention for his era which is basically 70's into early 80s.
So it's Hackman, Hoffman, Duval, Nicholson, Eastwood. Pacino was god father centric in the 70s and didn't get as many of the other iconic roles until the 80s. DeNiro started to break out in the 70s but didn't peak till the 80's and 90s. Brando is a 50s star who had a come back in a 70's film. Newman is more a 60's star.
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Best work in supporting roles: wrong
List provided as an example: not great putting it mildly
Redford is Jay Buhner: can't take your view on the matter seriously
Pitt playing different characters: if meant as a dig on Redford, that's fine but it also eliminates a few actors on your list. And I don't score Jeremiah Johnson and Roy Hobbs as the same character fwiw.
That all said, if we are strictly limited to Top 4, then I think there is room for reasonable debate about other actors pushing him off. I'll remember next time Mount Rushmore comes up that we are limited to actual Mount Rushmore spots. But his body of work in movies as an actor, including many that weren't written according to the blockbuster formula (Cruise, Hanks, Washington et al) along with his larger role in cinema as an attractor and developer of talent, producer, writer and director all put him up with the biggest names.
As a technical actor … I can't play the 4.8 vs. 4.4 game and I suspect nobody really can because it's stupid. Some guys have crazy range and can do all kinds of shit that makes you forget who they really are (De Niro, Hoffman, Nicholson) and others who can never hide the fact that they are who they are playing a role (Costner, Hanks, Newman, Washington, Eastwood, etc.). Even in Saving Private Ryan, Tom Hanks was Tom Hanks through and through playing Captain Miller. Same guy who was stranded on an island for 4 years. Same guy acting like a gay man dying of AIDs in Philadelphia. Always Tom Hanks.
