Not Too Bad
for missing out on many top recruits
Yeah he could have done better
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USC is number one because they have 46 kids in their class. They’re like 7th by average rating. UW is 21st by average rating. Oregon is actually number one by average
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UW is doing well in the TBS game this year. Rivals was sneakily taken over by On3, which is a fake propaganda pay for play site and fucks up the rankings by gassing anything connected to certain progrums.
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Indeed, USC's class is barely top 10 according to 247 based on average rating. Oregon is #1 by a full point (94.3) over #2 LSU. Several teams have similar ratings in the 91-92 range, including USC.
E-F dropping the hard data today.
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TBS ratings were already kind of fucked out and then On3 stepped in and full on buttfucked them.
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udub needs to be top 15 in the avg rating. They’ll do it next year with a 10 win season. Doing well though… DSD disagrees.
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Not to be a cunt here, but the issue is that aside from outliers(LIKE WASHINGTON) top 20 is meaningless. "you?" have to be well inside the top 10 to have a consistent shot to lose to Ohio State and Georgia. The difference between 10 and 20 is way, way greater than the difference between 1 and 10. 20 is closer to 40 than it is to 10. The gap only grows. @puppylove_sugarsteel
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This isn't a terrible point, dtd. The thing is though that UW wasn't even recruiting in the Top 40 under Jimmy and DeBoer so getting back into the realm of ranked recruiting talent to build a base of talent and depth needed to happen. I think one way teams can compete is if they can end up with an elite QB like how UW did with Penix, and QBs can be harder to project and for teams to stack because they want to play.
There's really only been 3-4 programs at a time that can actually win the whole thing but it does feel like we're heading more and more to the dream of Savannah Bananas shit.
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I don't know, the core of UW's 2022-2023 teams were from the 2019 and 2020 classes. They were ranked #15 and #17. DeBoer added Penix and Dillon Johnson (and Junior Adams / Jimmy Lake added Ja'Lynn Polk) for rocket fuel.
Though the 2023 (#26), 2024 (#47), and 2025 (#23) classes weren't ranked that highly, UW is still stacking some talent. The 2024 class was the not-fun transition from DeBoer to Fisch but there are some pretty good players from that class (it was light on numbers with only 18 commits). The 2026 class is ranked #19 and could end up higher if they can flip a few good recruits from UCLA (the 4-star O'Dea DL and the high 3 star LB from Spanaway).
The key is Fisch and Co. sticking around for continuity and going at least 8-4 in the regular season to show solid improvement.
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The Petersen classes were underrated by the TBS losers and should have been Top 10 classes but said TBS losers gave too many points to overall number of players signed and probably getting paid to pump up certain players and shit like that I'm tired of writing about. Hi Gee Scott Jr. being rated as a borderline 5 star and ahead of McMillan and Odunze.
Combine Petersman signing what should have at least been borderline top 10 classes, with an all-time great ability to assess talent with Penix and you have 2022-23.
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Peterson OKGs were malleable to his coaching and sedulous to the rigors of competing for tits, unlike most modern 4-5 stars who spend more tim curating tiktoks and having their sister paint their nails than focusing on football.
Coupled with Penix and a few other portals, 2023 was lightning in a bottle.
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No it wasn't. It was building a roster full of guys that work professionally and wanted to win and just needed *A* scheme.
Wait, so the 2023 team was made up of guys that weren't true freshman? How the fuck else are championship teams made? Look at Ohio State last year even?
You quooks can miss me with that noise, it's something you tell yourselves to feel better about the last ever Pac 12 season.
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Huh?
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Dude, just within the last month I've had some quook try to pull this in person. I'm not having it.
"Lightning in a bottle" is for losers to feel good about losing. None of you respected our roster and paid attention to it now it's "they only beat us because they had all these 8 year seniors"
No, we didn't. And the ones we did were countered by the ones you had.
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Lightning in a bottle is straight off this bored.
You're welcome to read the part of my post about Peterson being a recruiter of dudes who necessarily could exceed expectations.
If that's insufficient…
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Imagine thinking I agree with this board.
Petersen didn't do some miracle in 2018/19. I disagree with that.
He had a vision for his program and built towards that.
He bailed right before his vision was realized with him as the head coach, which is sad.
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I have never taken Flatus as a Jack Qook who thinks UW just had a two year miracle because of Penix, but maybe I'm wrong. Any 8 year seniors thing is dunce shit. Everyone forgets UW had 7 guys who left early for the NFL after 2023 and had a couple guys like Tuli who probably could have fought to get another year if they wanted.
I think kids and parents who wanted to play for Petersen and UW probably also tended to be ones who didn't play the games that get you rated higher by TBS rankings. McDuffie seems like one of those guys who it's wild how he wasn't rated higher.
It's more of a miracle Petersen quit and wouldn't take grad transfers at LB so UW lost 5 games in 2019 and that Jimmy was so bad he only won 4 games in 2021 with the roster he had than it is a miracle UW had the run in 2022-23 they did.
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The vision would not have been completed with Petersen. His offenses were broken for years. No way Odunze, McMillan, etc would have been as good with Petersen. Not to mention, no Penix.
Lightning in a bottle isn’t a bad thing. Guys played to their potential or above and Penix was an all time CFB great.
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I think Haener was the guy that Petersen's offense needed and never got and think that Petersen knew that too. But we'll never know.
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Petersen didn't know what to do with a QB that wasn't a cerebral midget. And I'm not sure how smart Heaner is
Skinny won the job at Georgia too before getting hurt
Boner coached both Jake and Penix and chose wisely when he got the Washington job
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Based on his time at Arizona and very brief time at UW it seems Judd has a good knack for identifying talent, developing it, and playing the TBS rankings game enough. Demond might give us a chance to do big things the next couple of seasons and UW will be in a great place if that happens, even if we won't be able to just sign TBS and portal classes every year that can keep up fighting for national titles automatically.
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Based on most metrics, it seems Haener was the most dynamic QB Petersen ever had. UW would have had a ton of success had he come back with DeBoer even if he obviously wasn't Penix. I think Petersen's offensive shit was always kind of fucked up. Browning having a good career as an NFL backup points to that when at the point when he was a senior at UW we were scared to have him throw passes against teams like the Beav. Shitty WR recruiting under Pease was also to blame too.
