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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    If we stay in Oregon that might be the case - who knows.

    Living in Wakanda as a remote worker is always a bit tenuous, so you never know if economis would force us to relocate somewhere shitty like front range of Colorado or SoCal.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,073

    Travel ball before high school is a grift on unrealistic parents.

    It all comes down to genetics. And 4'11" 7th grade point guard is going to be 5'4" point guard playing noon ball once puberty hits.

    6'8" little Yella would be just fine waiting until he was going into his soph year before hitting the road for exposure.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    edited September 5

    100% agreement.

    But I'm sure you can appreciate where I'm coming from. If mom is 6'2" and held her own against future WNBA chicks in the NCAA tournament and dad is just a shy of 6'7" it's possible there may be some potential worth working on. He's 5'8" heading into 6th grade and starting to figure things out.

    For the record, our travel sports ball commitment isn't terrible right now. It's like 4 or 5 tournaments per year in Salem/PDX and the local select league on Central Oregon. If he ends up being good, then you can start looking at more serious travel teams in HS.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    Indeed.

    It well known that I'm a Sydney Sweeney contrarian in this space, mostly due to 5'3" prejudice and a touch of Downs in the face. But she does have mostly good genes.

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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,224 Standard Supporter

    @eugenicsdawg true?!?!

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited September 5

    smart thinking @YellowSnow.

    unless you're doing something specific, yeah, most people don't care where you went to undergrad and those that do often don't know that Whitman has brighter students than Gonzaga. It's just not common information people tend to care about. Sure, Furd, Duke, Ivies, some of the elite LACs, etc. move the needle and can open some doors. But generally it makes sense to make the right economic decision for undergrad. Grad school is a different matter.

    I banking is still eluding the schools in the PNW though UW is starting to scratch some turf there, but you're still better off at a feeder, most of which are elite (MIT, Furd, Duke, Ivy, etc.) and some have just worn a nice path by being super Guido (SMU, USC, Boston College and a few others that would surprise you). I say Guido because those schools, while hard to get into, are not in my estimation at the elite admissions line. SMU for example does not get the smartest kids in Texas - they go to Rice and UT Austin - but they are connected kids. Kind of like the old USC of Texas.

    If you want hedge fund they want elite quant skills and often only hire at the grad school level. Those places don't play around. Unlike the I banks, which still maintain kind of a country club atmosphere, these places are mercenary and only want people with the right math skills to help them do what they do, which is use math to fuck around with the market. Fuckers.

    PE is somewhere between I banking and hedge … hard to break in.

    If your kid wants to end up in Finance in industry and goes the accounting route, which is accessible and doable for the average kid willing to work, then the Big 4 give zero fucks where you went. Totally different culture from the above. Having said that, the Seattle offices of the Big 4 view UW Foster as a very important source of recruiting. Still, you work at those places and you are going to be surrounded by Kewgs, Ducks, Beaves, WW Vikings and CWU Wildcats.

    I still maintain that the elite LAC - in the PNW that's Whitman and Reed - is the gold standard for the best substantive undergrad prep. They are not trade schools. They educate in the classical sense and it's not possible to hide at those places. Your professors are going to know you on a first name basis and will know if you're not in class. No scantron multiple choice tests. You have to know your shit or your grades will suffer. My kid attended one in New England and is now a maff PhD student at an Ivy. Ask and she'll tell you majoring in physics at her LAC is still the hardest academic shit she's done. Worth the money? Depends on your priorities, but probably not.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    I know.

    My family has a sick cabin and I hate travelling. Like absolutely fucking hate it.

    It isn't lost on me how much that saves versus even just taking the kids down to a third world country like DisneyLand.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    edited September 5

    Get him into a boat. The competition in basketball is fucking fierce and one of the sports for which the PNW produces a shit load of talent.

    Also, the AAU circuit is almost inevitable for hoops and that is a culture in which you have to mind yourself as a big white guy. Buddy just went through it and his son, one of the best Washington high school kids, is off to the east coast to play for a high academis school.

    If this NIL shit is around when junior is out, I will tell you from having walked with my buddy through his son's recruitment that being a high school recruit has become a much tougher road than it used to be.

    I don't know. I'd get that kid a killer 2K erg time and get him recruited to play rowboat. You will like your life much better. I'm not sure I could play the AAU game. The east side soccer shit show circus was about all I could take. Add the additional layer of shit you get with AAU and it would have been a hard pass for me.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    There's no boats here. Just my erg in the garage. And there's always time to figure that out. There are several examples of Bend kids doing a bit of row boat at Oregon State and then transferring to better programs.

    I know how much you hate sports riff raff @creepycoug but the challenge is we have a mom who used to school AAU peeps. Honestly, I don't care if my kids play college sports or not. Just want them to have fun (they are) and reach their fullest potential. There are examples of tall kids from our local high schools going on to play D1 and D2 hoops without causing the parents to get divorced.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    Maybe if you can manage to stay out of the Seattle and Portland AAU circles. But God help you if some Portland coach talks you into letting him play on his AAU team. Hoops culture sucks IMO.

    All you really need is the erg machine anyway.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,073

    I-5 AAU is filth