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Why DeBoer 'might have to win it all' to remain at Alabama
DerekJohnson
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Big scoop. Ask all the guys between Gene Stallings and Nick Saban
Win the natty or fuck off
Wish Washington was like that
One thing that's interesting about Bama is, like USC, and more blue bloods than you think probably, they aren't overly exceptional outside of their two generational coaches - they had their one natty and some years under Stallings, but other than Bear and Saban, they've have plenty of years of being a good program but not elite. Take away those two coaches and they're not set up as a program that should necessarily be set up for bigger success geographically than Georgia, LSU, Texas or even Florida or Tennessee.
Bama never wasted time worrying about being fair or giving more time
Most coaches suck so you need to churn them out early and often until you find one that doesn't
Then you keep him
Might?
I mean if he hasn't won it all by year 4 (and that's being generous) he better have been in the title game and almost won where it is expected and likely to win soon.
I'm not rooting for the guy to fail at his dream job, I'm just rooting for the shitkicker Alabama pilot to have five too many before the plane takes off from Missouri or Georgia after an embarrassing loss.
@WoolleyDoog is correct. Bama usually gives losers 3-4 years to right the ship. These are the guys just before and just after title winning coaches over the last 70 or so years.
Harold Drew 8 years 54-28-7 (7-3-1 avg.)
Jennings Whitworth 3 years 4-24-2 (1-9)
Ray Perkins 4 years 32-15-1 (8-4)
Bill Curry 3 years 26-10 (9-3 and sanctions)
Mike DuBose 4 years 24-23 (6-6)
Mike Shula 4 years 10-23 (3-8)
Not great records unless you’re a HOF type coach. DeBoer, you’re on the clock.
Judd/Lambo needs to win 9 this year and playoffs next year or GTFO.
If Fisch wins 8 games this year and next year, he'll have zero additional pressure on him.
That's the biggest fear. I think he is better than sark though which is what you are basically describing. Either way it will be interesting.
To be fair, I don't know what programs are good examples of ones that have more high end success no matter who the coach is better than Bama but I think it's just an example of like USC where everyone assumes any decent coach goes in there and should win national titles and it's not the case. And there's at least a half a dozen SEC schools who probably have better boosters and instate talent to just connect the dots with.
9-4 after crashing out last year to 6-7 with multiple blow outs to decent teams on the road and close losses to inferior teams doesn't bode well for Judd
His one shining moment going 10-3 at Arizona is his only winning season ever
I've seen enough
You’re right, Fishlips will get 4 years, just like Alabama tends to do, barring losing seasons in three consecutive years. The question is, will Chun pull the trigger after year four if 8-4 is the high water mark? I’d be willing to say yes. UW chose the deep water and can’t afford to tread in one place too long.
Yeah I'm a doog but when Cauce said that she doesn't want to compete at any level but the highest it's hard to see her replacement being happy with 8-4 and then 5-7 win seasons around that.
Yeah I don't think almost any program in the better half of the power two conferences will be okay with above average, especially one like UW which is in a big market who doesn't have that built in college town alumni stuff like a Wisconsin type. I wouldn't be surprised if they went the perpetually 7-5/8-4 route that Judd either gets fired or bails to some NFL job.
SEC teams have really come down to earth since the cheating they used to do was basically legalized. That's the real reason Nick quit.
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I'm not totally sold on it yet. We had some some years like 2010, 2013 & 14 where the best SEC programs were just a shade off and probably not coincidentally Auburn and Ohio State snuck into things a couple of those years. Georgia easily could have won in 2023 if they don't lose to Bama and/or expanded playoff and Bama also could have easily won. Georgia easily could have been the second-best team last year and can argue their starting QB got knocked out even if he is a shitty Dreamworks Animation character.
Where is Mike Price on your list of esteemed Bama corches?
It’s rollin’, baby.
I believe DeBoer and Alabama are very fortunate that Grubb was fired in Seattle. I understand the head guy is the main cog in the machine but Sheridan was a bad fill in. I hope DeBoer fails but it’s unlikely, he too good a coach to shit the bed and now he’s actually recruiting well but that is still Saban and his legacy. Another reason why he left UW, recruiting was easier after the legend.
I left off Price because he never coached a game and Franchione because he left Alabama for Ass To Mouth after two years.