That whole area has changed a lot over the years. I remember in the late 60's/early 70's there was a Donut House on First and Pike that really turned to crap in the late 70's/early 80's. There was also Firestone Store on First and Union with a parking garage above it and mix of pawn shops and peep show places up and down first avenue … first avenue has always been a bit seedy, but a Four Season's hotel is at that location now. The view of Puget Sound is stunning from there, but I would have never guessed a Four Seasons would end up on First and Union. Doc Maynards, the J&M Cafe, Fenix Underground, Fenix Above Ground, all reasonably safe places in the 80's around Pioneer Square. The place is a grade A shit hole now, I wouldn't waste my time there, which is a shame. When SAM went in the area seemed to be sprucing up a bit. Decades of left wing city councils and Mayors have destroyed the place.
Like Portland, Seattle and San Francisco cities with hard blue mayors and governors are in a doom loop. NYC is just entering the blue event horizon of the black hole. Detroit in 1960 had more millionaires than NYC and then the dems got a hold of it. Toss in Chicago in that mix.
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I used to walk through that almost every day as the best 150$ brewery lunch places around there are at the waterfront next to OHSU. Before covid obviously.
It's always been piss filled with at least one bum, even going back to the Trump days.
The area is also a residential for Portland State professors and so there has never been a lack of effort to get those people out of that neighborhood.
Have lots of good memories of Pioneer Square area both day and night. Worked down there for a summer internship and there was the occasional bum but mostly a professional yuppie crowd.
Lots of good times at the bar scene. I remember my roommate coming home with a red mustache after going home with a chick on her rag. He had no idea why I was laughing so hard at him until he went to take a shower. "That dirty bitch!"
I've been to the Owl-N-Thistle many times (30 years ago). I assume it is gone now? I also went to Art Walk a few times back then. PS used to be great. Now ruined like much of liberal run America.
edit: Looked it up. Appears to still be open. On Post. Wild.
I don't care what you and other consenting adult men do in the bathroom. I just wish you wouldn't do it in public parks. Volunteer Park is in a high rent neighborhood and otherwise a lovely part of the city.
Every great beer place in Portland closed down during/after COVID. Right before COVID we had breweries where you could buy a Japanese lager that was actually a collaboration between a brewery there and one in Portland.
Except Maui's. Maui's will still be standing even if it's boarded up and taking on the apocalypse.
People on r/Portland are whining that the Fred Meyer by the stadium may be closing down. Same assholes who demanded the Thurman Street Food Front co-op I used to shop at while living in Slab Town be shut down during Covid, which ended up killing the market and further limiting options other than the Freddie’s.
A downtown area full of absolute retards who can knot piece together how their reactionary policies have damaging long-term consequences.
So glad I moved. I’d probably be getting into fights by now mocking the TrAntifa shitstains who would wander aimlessly around the neighborhood looking for drugs.
Seattle PS in late 90s/early 00s was a lot of fun for college kids/early post grads. Steep downhill over the last 15yrs obviously.
Same with 1st ave/Burnside area of Portland.
Both were a little rough on the edges back then but when you’re 22 you DGAF. Now they’re just places for H/Fent addicts to panhandle and die in the streets.
I also worked at couple places in Pioneer Square as a bar back while in hs and as an undergraduate at UW. Definitely rough around the edges even in the late 70s. My jr/sr year I waited tables and was one of the bartenders at Celebrites if anyone remembers that club between the Fire Station and the Penix. The tips were so great I continued to work Friday/Saturday and Sunday evening early in my professional career until my daughter was 4. I witnessed some wild shit in that club and it was a heaven for Sonics/Ms and hawks and Sunday nights were insane once the manager and DJ started to attract the early rap crowd, one brother was shot and killed inside near the end of my time there. Rick James era
Had an office there for years. Avoid it these days like the plague. Last time I was there going to a sounders game a guy was dropping a deuce on first Avenue across the street from the Cherry Street coffeehouse. Fuck Seattle.
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That whole area has changed a lot over the years. I remember in the late 60's/early 70's there was a Donut House on First and Pike that really turned to crap in the late 70's/early 80's. There was also Firestone Store on First and Union with a parking garage above it and mix of pawn shops and peep show places up and down first avenue … first avenue has always been a bit seedy, but a Four Season's hotel is at that location now. The view of Puget Sound is stunning from there, but I would have never guessed a Four Seasons would end up on First and Union. Doc Maynards, the J&M Cafe, Fenix Underground, Fenix Above Ground, all reasonably safe places in the 80's around Pioneer Square. The place is a grade A shit hole now, I wouldn't waste my time there, which is a shame. When SAM went in the area seemed to be sprucing up a bit. Decades of left wing city councils and Mayors have destroyed the place.
Like Portland, Seattle and San Francisco cities with hard blue mayors and governors are in a doom loop. NYC is just entering the blue event horizon of the black hole. Detroit in 1960 had more millionaires than NYC and then the dems got a hold of it. Toss in Chicago in that mix.
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Shares of firms tied to the NYC real estate market fall over fears of Socialist Jihadi Zorhan Mamdani's socialist plan to freeze rents.
Just curious. Is the Veritable Quandary still there in downtown Portland? Strong drinks and some agreeable women back in the day.
I used to walk through that almost every day as the best 150$ brewery lunch places around there are at the waterfront next to OHSU. Before covid obviously.
It's always been piss filled with at least one bum, even going back to the Trump days.
The area is also a residential for Portland State professors and so there has never been a lack of effort to get those people out of that neighborhood.
Have lots of good memories of Pioneer Square area both day and night. Worked down there for a summer internship and there was the occasional bum but mostly a professional yuppie crowd.
Lots of good times at the bar scene. I remember my roommate coming home with a red mustache after going home with a chick on her rag. He had no idea why I was laughing so hard at him until he went to take a shower. "That dirty bitch!"
I've been to the Owl-N-Thistle many times (30 years ago). I assume it is gone now? I also went to Art Walk a few times back then. PS used to be great. Now ruined like much of liberal run America.
edit: Looked it up. Appears to still be open. On Post. Wild.
You're the expert on that.
J&M Saloon. Pioneer Square had a great old west drinking vibe.
Been decades since The Throbber has been to Pioneer Square - is there even a bar near there now? Google Maps looks like it is a alcohol desert.
80's/early 90s Throbber and Pioneer Square had some of the best times i'll never remember.
They closed in 2016
Fucking Trump
I?m hearing he was a frequent customer
I don't care what you and other consenting adult men do in the bathroom. I just wish you wouldn't do it in public parks. Volunteer Park is in a high rent neighborhood and otherwise a lovely part of the city.
Every great beer place in Portland closed down during/after COVID. Right before COVID we had breweries where you could buy a Japanese lager that was actually a collaboration between a brewery there and one in Portland.
Except Maui's. Maui's will still be standing even if it's boarded up and taking on the apocalypse.
People on r/Portland are whining that the Fred Meyer by the stadium may be closing down. Same assholes who demanded the Thurman Street Food Front co-op I used to shop at while living in Slab Town be shut down during Covid, which ended up killing the market and further limiting options other than the Freddie’s.
A downtown area full of absolute retards who can knot piece together how their reactionary policies have damaging long-term consequences.
So glad I moved. I’d probably be getting into fights by now mocking the TrAntifa shitstains who would wander aimlessly around the neighborhood looking for drugs.
to be fair, that stadium Fred Meyer has always been a shithole
I had to go check if People’s Food Co-Op in SE was still open though because I used to live next to it. Still is.
Seattle PS in late 90s/early 00s was a lot of fun for college kids/early post grads. Steep downhill over the last 15yrs obviously.
Same with 1st ave/Burnside area of Portland.
Both were a little rough on the edges back then but when you’re 22 you DGAF. Now they’re just places for H/Fent addicts to panhandle and die in the streets.
Again, the liberals are super happy with what they have done to destroy our cities. They love it, and are so proud they continue to vote for the same.
I also worked at couple places in Pioneer Square as a bar back while in hs and as an undergraduate at UW. Definitely rough around the edges even in the late 70s. My jr/sr year I waited tables and was one of the bartenders at Celebrites if anyone remembers that club between the Fire Station and the Penix. The tips were so great I continued to work Friday/Saturday and Sunday evening early in my professional career until my daughter was 4. I witnessed some wild shit in that club and it was a heaven for Sonics/Ms and hawks and Sunday nights were insane once the manager and DJ started to attract the early rap crowd, one brother was shot and killed inside near the end of my time there. Rick James era
Had an office there for years. Avoid it these days like the plague. Last time I was there going to a sounders game a guy was dropping a deuce on first Avenue across the street from the Cherry Street coffeehouse. Fuck Seattle.