Hard to believe this is America
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That whole area has changed a lot over the years. I remember in the late 60's/early 70's there was a Donut House on First and Pike that really turned to crap in the late 70's/early 80's. There was also Firestone Store on First and Union with a parking garage above it and mix of pawn shops and peep show places up and down first avenue … first avenue has always been a bit seedy, but a Four Season's hotel is at that location now. The view of Puget Sound is stunning from there, but I would have never guessed a Four Seasons would end up on First and Union. Doc Maynards, the J&M Cafe, Fenix Underground, Fenix Above Ground, all reasonably safe places in the 80's around Pioneer Square. The place is a grade A shit hole now, I wouldn't waste my time there, which is a shame. When SAM went in the area seemed to be sprucing up a bit. Decades of left wing city councils and Mayors have destroyed the place.
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Like Portland, Seattle and San Francisco cities with hard blue mayors and governors are in a doom loop. NYC is just entering the blue event horizon of the black hole. Detroit in 1960 had more millionaires than NYC and then the dems got a hold of it. Toss in Chicago in that mix.
https://ace.mu.nu/
Shares of firms tied to the NYC real estate market fall over fears of Socialist Jihadi Zorhan Mamdani's socialist plan to freeze rents.Shares of firms with exposure to New York City's real-estate market were hammered Wednesday as investors panicked over the growing prospect of rent-freeze advocate Zohran Mamdani winning City Hall.
Vornado Realty Trust and SL Green, two of the Big Apple's largest developers, each plunged more than 5%.
Other real estate investment trusts (REITs) with heavy ties to the city also suffered. Equity Residential and Empire State Realty Trust fell 3% and 4%, respectively. LXP Industrial Trust was down 2.5%.
Investors also sold off shares in New York banks with major real estate portfolios.
Flagstar Financial and Dime Community Bank fell 5% and 4%, respectively, while Flushing Financial slipped 3%.
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Just curious. Is the Veritable Quandary still there in downtown Portland? Strong drinks and some agreeable women back in the day.
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I used to walk through that almost every day as the best 150$ brewery lunch places around there are at the waterfront next to OHSU. Before covid obviously.
It's always been piss filled with at least one bum, even going back to the Trump days.
The area is also a residential for Portland State professors and so there has never been a lack of effort to get those people out of that neighborhood.
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Have lots of good memories of Pioneer Square area both day and night. Worked down there for a summer internship and there was the occasional bum but mostly a professional yuppie crowd.
Lots of good times at the bar scene. I remember my roommate coming home with a red mustache after going home with a chick on her rag. He had no idea why I was laughing so hard at him until he went to take a shower. "That dirty bitch!"
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I've been to the Owl-N-Thistle many times (30 years ago). I assume it is gone now? I also went to Art Walk a few times back then. PS used to be great. Now ruined like much of liberal run America.
edit: Looked it up. Appears to still be open. On Post. Wild.
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You're the expert on that.
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J&M Saloon. Pioneer Square had a great old west drinking vibe.
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Been decades since The Throbber has been to Pioneer Square - is there even a bar near there now? Google Maps looks like it is a alcohol desert.
80's/early 90s Throbber and Pioneer Square had some of the best times i'll never remember.
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They closed in 2016









