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nobody has addressed the real issue with Iran in all of this: terror funding.

does the ceasefire with Israel deal with that? I assume it does not.

notwithstanding a nice hit (for them) on Haifa, they are on their fucking heels. when will the lesson be learned? when you have your heel on a wolf's throat, you press DOWN HARD! you don't say, "I'm going to let you have a moment here to save you the embarrassment." The Iranians like to talk a big dick game. Well, let's see your cock motherfucker. Here's mine.

what? you gals think that in 5 years time those motherfuckers are going to say, "yeah, we've stopped nuking up and funding terrorist groups because you guys were nice enough to let us save face back when."???? JFC.

the world is a tuff place. we have interests in the middle east. we have the best toys and the best boys. it's a yuge part of the federal budget. use it or lose it. we also have the best ally. fuck it. take the victory and get more victories. this is like winning the first round of the cfb playoffs. time to focus on the next game. press DOWN. Israel did the hard part and big dicked their way into a fight by punching first and punching hard. this is the time. nothing will change going forward other than they've had a set back on the nuke ambitions.

I'd have that mother fucking supreme leader in DC tomorrow with a gun pointed at his head to negotiate terms of a peace deal. we're in this now. this isn't dipping your toe into a pool. you're in or you're out. we're in.

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Bob_C

Israel can handle the other stuff.

Doogles

I'm with you both. Is it really a cease fire if terror groups keep attacking Israel?

ATBS, Let Israel finish it.

RaceBannon

Finish it but in a nice way without insulting them

HHusky

The Soleimani assassination and this targeting of the Iranian nuclear facilities are two things I think Trump got right. I supported both specifically because Iran funds terrorism—I’m not convinced Iran was especially close to developing a nuke, but their intransigence gave us a reasonable excuse to bomb the facilities and again send the message that the Iranian regime has every reason to fear us. I prefer Realpolitik in dealing with outlaws.

creepycoug

In Israel, where everyone has had to become an Iran expert, a video clip has been making the rounds. It’s from a 2021 speech by Gholam Ali Rashid, commander of Iran’s joint military headquarters, whom Israel killed in early strikes on June 13.

Three months before the 2020 U.S. killing of Qassem Soleimani, Rashid recounts, the legendary Quds Force commander laid out his life’s work. “
I have assembled for you six armies outside Iran
and I have created a corridor 1,500 kilometers long and 1,000 kilometers wide, all the way to the shores of the Mediterranean,” Soleimani told Iran’s army chiefs. “Any enemy that decides to fight against the Islamic Revolution, and against the sacred regime of the Islamic Republic of Iran, will have to go through these six armies. It won’t be able to do so.”
Yet Israel did.
Rather than circumvent Soleimani’s strategy, Jerusalem has fought Tehran on its own terms. Of Soleimani’s six armies, only the Houthis and Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Units have escaped. After the Oct. 7 massacre, Israel fought through Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah, wiping out their leadership and slicing up their missile arsenals, leaving the Assad regime in Syria to crumble without support.
Suddenly, Iran didn’t look so menacing
. Israel could focus on the state and nuclear program seeking its destruction without worrying about thousands of rockets a day from Iran’s proxies. Then President Trump could enter to remove all doubt.
Since the Iranian regime found itself alone under Israeli assault, it has been in shock and denial
, says Sharona Mazalian Levi, a researcher at Tel Aviv University’s Alliance Center for Iranian Studies. “
The regime got so used to lying to the people, it came to believe its own propaganda
,” she says. Israel was on the road to collapse. Iran could never be seriously challenged. Right up until the U.S. strikes, Iran claimed to be running up the score.
In reality, Israel, the size of New Jersey, was devastating Iran’s nuclear program, ballistic-missile program and military chain of command. Tehran’s civilians follow Israeli evacuation orders. Iran, twice the size of Texas with nine times Israel’s population, doesn’t even try to take on the Israel Defense Forces. Its dwindling salvos target civilians. The June 15 strike on the Weizmann Institute’s cancer-research facility is the world’s loss, but how does it bring Iran any closer to victory?
…
The timeline of Israel’s planning, much of which hasn’t been reported previously, is instructive. On June 4, 2024, following Iran’s April ballistic-missile attack on Israel, Mr. Netanyahu told his ministers it was their government’s responsibility to prevent a nuclear Iran. “The threat needs to be removed on this watch,” he said, according to a senior official in the room. The wars against proxies had other aims, but Mr. Netanyahu deemed this one overriding.
“We can’t leave it for the next generation,” he said in another closed meeting, “because there may not be a next generation.”
On Nov. 18, a month after Iran’s second ballistic-missile strike on Israel, Mr. Netanyahu issued a directive to the IDF and Mossad to prepare to remove the Iranian nuclear threat by April 2025. But when the time came, Mr. Trump demurred, wanting talks.
…
Soleimani was mostly right in his vision. But he couldn’t imagine that Israel would fight through Iran’s proxies and withstand slaughter, extortion, tunnels, rockets and internal displacements, along with pressures and calumnies international and domestic, and emerge with enough in the tank, U.S. backing intact, and Mr. Netanyahu still in the driver’s seat. Now, Israel’s prime minister can realize a vision of his own—and fulfil his historical responsibility.

Full text: https://archive.ph/dU6v0

That is a fucking man right there.

EverettChris

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081096#Comment_2081096

Bomb the shit out of them but be nice about it so as to let them save face in the eyes of the citizens they abuse and oppress.

creepycoug

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081092#Comment_2081092

Again, let's be clear: we're not playing "just the tip, just the tip" game here. Btw, I was never able to play that game. No self control.

We are in this. We bombed a foreign sovereign. We invaded their airspace without permission and bombed their facilities to the stone age, again, without permission. This is an act of aggression. They hated us before this. They hate us more now. They funded terror before this. This has not crippled them from funding terror now. A sleeper cell in the US (thanks Biden!) can be activated to fuck us up and they needn't claim responsibility for it. It will suffice that it happened.

Every fucking liberal I know whined to me like a French whore, "but, but, the REAL issue is Iran. leave poor Hamas alone. they know not what they do!" Or whatever. OK, now we have the head of the snake in one hand and a fucking knife in the other. Should I let it go to be … nice? WTF?

Grab your balls Don, JOIN Israel and BSD Bibi, and fucking dismantle that regime. Learn from prior fuck-ups. We did this once with Germany. It can be done. Iran is an old empire and there are sophisticated people there who know that the earth isn't flat (unlike the [ ] stans) and they can rebuild into something recognizable as a modern society.

Notice that none of the wealthy Arab countries who also know the earth isn't flat are flailing about screaming "let them save face! let them save face!" Their silence is deafening.

At a bare minimum, order the supreme leader to DC and dictate the terms of a peace deal that will include our unfettered access to their facilities for inspections every fucking day of the week if that's what we want and an audit of their finances to confirm they aren't funding terrorists. Open fucking book or you get to meet Allah sooner than you thought.

Bob_C

We aren’t doing any of that, Lindsay.

creepycoug

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081107#Comment_2081107

Fuck off, Bob. You're getting on my nerves.

Bob_C

Your post is a huge reason that Trump won twice. Focus on America. Your plan is anything but.

creepycoug

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081114#Comment_2081114

I speak two languages and read for a living and don't know what the fuck you're saying here. Speak the King's English and I might respond. Or fuck off. Take your pick.

Bob_C

Trump won twice because he opposed exactly what you are calling for.

creepycoug

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081117#Comment_2081117

Oh, so Trump might make someone mad? Lose his political support? Oh, no! What will happen?

Please. No. Where. To. Go.

And a majority of his base really gives zero fucks about it and will still love him for the 9 out of 10 things he does that they like.

Trump is a bull in a china shop and breaks shit all the time. And he keeps coming back. People fucking love him. He is unique in that way. His political career is unlike that of all other politicians, current or past.

pawz

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081199#Comment_2081199

You seem uncharacteristically emotional. You also underestimate the amount of the base who explicitly opposed this shit. It doesn’t end at me and Bob - or MTG.

Bob_C

Seriously, thought he was drunk or something yesterday. Lindsay and Mark Levin were melting down yesterday too. They are pissed that they aren’t able to use Trump as a Trojan horse for the actual plan.

pawz

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2081223#Comment_2081223

”Israel, Iran don’t know what the **** they are doing”

https://youtu.be/0UWXv7Afghw?si=pfvNUZ_7xZhtO_Cp

Bob_C

https://twitter.com/barnes_law/status/1937567113713188970?s=46&t=TF5YSHjB9Hq6ZBrenucnTg

PurpleThrobber

Levine is blinded by his jewishness and Graham is blinded by his greedy faggotry.

Drop the MOABs and GTFO. End the endless wars. Like we say, as we voted.

RaceBannon

This Iranian government is going to work harder than ever and really buy in on getting a nuke. That's just human nature

The 30 year endless containment rolls on. You can steal tax dollars for that too

I don't see an easy answer. Seems like some hope here. We'll see

Bob_C

Often when a corrupt regime gets embarrassed on the world stage they turn inwards and take out their humiliations on their own people for a little while. Like Saddam with the Kurds and Shias. And Biden after Afghanistan with the unvaxxed. The Mullahs are going to have an internal purge looking for Mossad.