Top 25 College Football Coaches Since 2000
Another offseason Top 25 list about this millennium. Peterman is #10 and the highest ranked coach who didn't win a national championship. I thought it was on3's list at first, but it's The Athletic, which makes sense because on3 would have Lanning like #8. Got me thinking about wondering if Pettisman would have jumped to the UW job earlier if Sark left earlier. Solid list though "just don't crash the Ferrari" guys like Day and Linc Riley are probably too high.
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People that respect Kyle Whittingham on that level are such fags. All the old conference cheerleaders loved putting him ahead of Leach.
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Whittingham seems like a mostly JAG coach to me. Was in a great spot at Utah and went 65-48 in Pac-12 play while being in the soft South Division. What Leach was able to do at WSU is more impressive to me, even if he never won a division.
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Utah will always be a glorified Beaver team
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Whittingham got lucky in 2022 because Beav kicked USC's ass so badly the year before that Jonathon Smith wouldn't go away from his quarterback that was turning it over 4+ times a game.
The other two seasons around 2022, he got absolutely skull fucked in Corvallis.
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Was listening to a local radio segment covering this and now I'm convinced that nobody can touch Pete Carrol if you factor in the time taken to achieve everything. 9 years is insane.
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It's a good point of how damn impressive Carroll's run in college and pro was. I'm trying to think of who is even comparable? Harbaugh. That might be just about it.
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Pete went 6-6 year 1 and even lost to Rick
And then
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With a 12 team playoff he's there at least 7 times. Probably 7 for a 4 team
The Pac 12 champion had to be unbeaten to make the 2 team
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These list are trash, how do you leave off the guy with 1.000 win percentage? Tui #1.
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They did the anonymous comparison of resume's with Urban's. The difference was mainly that Pete lost the 2005 championship but Urban needed like 20 years.
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In a 4 team or 12 team playoff, USC from 2002 to 2005 goes:
2002: Miami was the best team but lost to Tressel; USC could have been the best team at the EOY. Possible title
2003: title
2004: title
2005: coin toss vs Young
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I'll go to my grave saying 05 USC usually beats that Texas team. 06-08 would have been interesting too. They weren't as good as the earlier USC teams, but 06 and 08 would have been interesting probably making to the final against Urb's Florida and then 07 USC was super flawed but that was the most wide open year in college football history so they could have easily won it all.
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Chip Kelly at 24? JTFC that’s some bull shit.
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You've become a doog moron.
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You're saying Pete did more with more?
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I thought he should be top 10 you ding Dong @dtd . Read my post again.
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Jimmy Johnson had a pretty good run in both. Turned the Cowboys around from a laffing stock to a dynasty.
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I'm assuming they are averaging their performance at all the schools listed. Chip's run at UCLA was underwhelming to say the least. Oregon stand-alone? He's easily T10. He forced rule changes and had Nick Saban whining about football not being safe for the kids. Lolz. That doesn't happen every day.
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The one thing I recall about the '05 team was that they were a little light in the loafers on defense. I have always thought more was made of that game as some kind of historical clash of juggernauts than was deserved. I can think of many, many cfb teams over the years that would have throttled both of those teams. But I think a lot of that had to do with America's love of iconic things, and in American Texas and football are two things that go together, and the collective we could never make sense of Texas not being a king in cfb. When Mack finally got the 'horns to the natty, it was a fucking story Americans wanted to lap up. Couple that with going against the beautiful people in LA and it was a media blitz ahead of its time. A game that today would generate Instagram shorts and memes. The truth is that Texas had a once-in-a-lifetime QB that did things that college defenses weren't great at defending back then and SC wasn't elite on defense that year. I think 5th round LB Dallas Sartz was their best defender. Maybe Darnell Bing. IDK. Who cares. I'm rambling. Whatever.
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That and Lincoln Riley?!? Doing less with more.
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Leach's problem was Cuog couldn't beat Dwag.
And then he'd fuck up one other game along the way just being stubborn.
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Chip 1.0 was fucking legit. Way more so than Lincoln.
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Pete was the fucking man at usc. Like @RaceBannon mentioned the speed in which he built that machine was crazy.
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Kelly is very hard to categorize. One of the best four-year runs you could ever imagine without winning a title (as our brilliant DTD pointed out), but then he came back and was incredibly below average and that has to be factored in, especially since it wasn't like a coming back at 75 thing either. What he did was certainly more impressive than anything Day has done, including winning a national title where he lost at home to a Michigan team UW beat.
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day also doesn’t win the title last year without chip as OC imho.
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The Deathrow DBs were Leach's worst matchup nightmare. Then he also earned a lot of respect from me by seeming to have the mindset that we're gonna win 9+ games every year and not make our season the Apple Cup and go 4-8. Sad loser Coug fans I know admitted towards the end they would have rather had the 4-8 but Apple Cup wins over actually being relevant and going to real bowl games.
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I'm willing to overlook much of Chip's struggles at UCLA to recognize the run he had at Oregon, especially in terms of how it changed the sport with the blur. He should be higher than boring ass clowns like Whittingham. If Whitt had been the one to take Utah from the mountain west to 12-0 etc, then sure, but Urbs put them on the map. Good on him for maintaining, but Kelly innovated.
Keep waiting to see Doogs get all proud that Peterman was the highest ranked without a title.
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This. I knew a guy whose kid was being recruited by Oregon (and everybody else) and he was in the weeds on everything inside cfb. He was smart, wealthy and influential and "managed" his kids' (yes, plural) D1 careers, so the kind of Dad who had a clue about this and that. Anyway, didn't go to Oregon, but the guy had high respect for Kelly and how he ran the program. The legendary stuff about practices being highly sync'd machines with nary a wasted second or movement and remarkable consistency day to day was, according to his sources, very much the case. I think it's fair to say there was a point there when Kelly was just ahead of everybody else. Just ran into the wrong kind of team in Buck in 2014. I know people laff here when I say this, but as dumb and stupid as Mario appears to be on the sideline, that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Mario really wants to do, he just hasn't been able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that. Bama has been able to do it. Georgia too. Not many others. Easy to want it; hard to do it. He's had some close O lines, but he's never really had the back to go with it. Or something. IDC.
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chip wasn’t coach in 2014 vs osu. He’d been gone for 2 years. His 2012 team was his best (and probably the best in Oregon history), but got tripped up by the Stanford team that was built to beat Oregon.
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that kind of team Buck had in 2014 with that kind of running back and running game is what Jimmy Lake really wanted to do, he just wasn't able to pull it off because it turns out to be very difficult to dominate on the O line like that.
Agreed Mario = Jimmy.
