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YellowSnow
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And we always lose to CAL. And I’m hungover and about to eat McDonald’s.
UW women’s team swept the Big 10 championship.
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Can’t win the all and its great that Cal is around to compete with ~ the boys in the boat have been the better team most years in the series and its great to have the solid competition to keep both programs lively.
Wake me up when rowing generates revenues
Uh, don't you talk about women's softball like it's some great thing?
We've been doing college sports now in the US since Harvard and Yale rowers invented the concept in 1852. Only Football and Men's Hoops have ever generated revenue. Seems like there's a larger purpose to Universities having a wide array Varsity sports than just those 2. But, hey, time's change…
I've been very critical of softball and have called out that for what Tarr is getting paid the return isn't matching the money at this point
There's a tipping point coming for softball over the next 1-2 years
I don't love the direction that things are taking … but it's also not my decision that it's going this way
Greed is winning here
If you aren't football or basketball you need to become self funding programs going forward … that's the bottom line
Rowing isn't going anywhere.
What the fuck are we even talking about?
UW has a half share and an obligation to football, but they also haven't over extended themselves in sports over the years. Tennis might have to go club ohh noo 😱
Crew at UW could go private rather easily
It is second only to football here
Men's rowing has by far the biggest endowment of any non-revenue, Olympic sport at UW.
However, the endowment only covers about 20% of the overall team budget for scholarships, equipment, travel, and coaching salaries. The rest is football largesse.
My understanding is that there is going to be less football largesse in a few years for Men's Rowing, and they need to either (a) see massive increase in donations for the endowment; or (b) make some significant budgetary cuts. Or they might have to do both.
Ironically, CAL's rowboat team's endowment is about 2.5 x that of ours. So while their AD is broke, their row boat team is in a better position than UW.
Not without getting free rent at the shell house with all it's marvelous floors, and some massive cutbacks to overall cost of the program. I'm talking about going back to Yella era (and before) with no more scholarships, higher percentage of local, tall Viking kids. They'd have to buy slower Pocock shells made in Everett vs those German made Empachers (the Porsche/Ferrari of rowing shells)
Rowing is going nowhere.
Montlake Futures is going to subsidize it over just about every other Olympic sport if it came to that. It won't though.
Softball, baseball, track, and tennis is what needs to get figured out.
This is really confusing since you're usually a fairly proud alum and on the lists of greatest things achieved by the University of Washington, sporting or otherwise, Rowing is on the list and is typically the top athletic accomplishment of the university. 1991, Rose Bowels and the early 1900s unbeaten streak are there, but it is the Seattle PI's defining sports moment of the 20th century. https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/events-of-the-century-3835569.php
PBS didn't make documentaries about the '91 football team. We haven't even mentioned the boat that went behind the iron curtain, beat the Soviets and popped off.
Anyway, obviously the world is different now and if the UW would like to continue that tradition it needs to continue to fund it.
But if the attitude is "it doesn't matter unless it makes money" then that's pretty fucking dystopian.
Nobody at Washington thinks like that wrt rowing.