"Negative externalities"… Of wind and solar!? Is Thank You For Smoking your favorite movie? You talk of offshoring environmental damage to China, but refineries in the US and Europe are closing while 181 are planned to be opened by 2030 in Asia, Africa, and the middle east. As for subsidies, global subsidies for fossil fuels was 70% of total subsidies in 2017. It's the inverse in the USA, where 50% of energy subsidies go to renewables and 15% to fossil fuels, with the remainder going to point of use incentives. Fossil fuels are fungible, so the global subsidies matter. Plus, even the U.S. has a history of heavily subsidizing fossil fuels, with 65% of federal energy subsidies going to fossil fuels between 1950 and 2016. Meaning much of the existing fossil fuel infrastructure in this country was built out with >$half-trillion in subsidies from Uncle Sam.
And not "article," but articles. Seemingly all of them. Plus 10th grade math and historical data. Toss in the 50-year roadmap of the fourth largest energy company in the world and dozens of emails from its CEO (we both have CEO buddies, experience the emotions in the tunnel, and have cabs that drink like merlots).
Global consumption of fossil fuels is increasing at a 1.5% annual rate, about the same rate as overall energy consumption. If that continues, we will consume the same amount of fossil fuels in the next 48 years as we have in the history of mankind. If you can read a graph with two axes, you should know we're whistling past the graveyard. And if your attitude toward that is, "Okay, but I'm going to get mines in the meantime," that's valid, I guess, but then that's the end of the conversation.
Yeah, you're right, wind and solar are miracles that have no trade offs or negative externalities at all unlike everything else in the history of energy. Or economics for that matter.
Counting tax breaks and government spending as the same subsidy is either stupid or dishonest. Which do you fall under?
"Trust the experts" I am an expert, literally, like people pay me lots of money for my actual analysis on things like ROI for energy projects. I'd send you a consulting invoice for my time but you can't afford it. Hth.
Next up will be the "trust the science", I always get a kick out of that one.
Better build nukes yesterday if you believe burning fossil fuels will end the world. Hint: there's a reason politicians pushing this won't just build nukes and buy beachfront property with their kickbacks from "sustainable energy". Total existential crisis.
Wind is a fine alternative energy source, but acting like it’s a win from a “carbon footprint” standpoint is retarded. Those things break down before they break even.
Went to my friends place on the water for the annual boat parade party last weekend. Now at Great Wolf Lodge for the week drinking Palomas. Life's TUFF down here in Orange County.
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We've wasted 50 years demonizing oil and nukes
Time to get serious
@YellowSnow bc vanilla is aids.
Been a whole fleet of nukes hanging out on the coast for 50+ years without incident.
It's really not a hard engineering problem.
@Swaye hasn’t gotten Chernobyled once.
it’s a non issue.
That's the tell that all this other stuff is a scam.
We? could have been carbon neutral in 2 years 50 years ago before it was "too late" to stop.
"Negative externalities"… Of wind and solar!? Is Thank You For Smoking your favorite movie? You talk of offshoring environmental damage to China, but refineries in the US and Europe are closing while 181 are planned to be opened by 2030 in Asia, Africa, and the middle east. As for subsidies, global subsidies for fossil fuels was 70% of total subsidies in 2017. It's the inverse in the USA, where 50% of energy subsidies go to renewables and 15% to fossil fuels, with the remainder going to point of use incentives. Fossil fuels are fungible, so the global subsidies matter. Plus, even the U.S. has a history of heavily subsidizing fossil fuels, with 65% of federal energy subsidies going to fossil fuels between 1950 and 2016. Meaning much of the existing fossil fuel infrastructure in this country was built out with >$half-trillion in subsidies from Uncle Sam.
And not "article," but articles. Seemingly all of them. Plus 10th grade math and historical data. Toss in the 50-year roadmap of the fourth largest energy company in the world and dozens of emails from its CEO (we both have CEO buddies, experience the emotions in the tunnel, and have cabs that drink like merlots).
Global consumption of fossil fuels is increasing at a 1.5% annual rate, about the same rate as overall energy consumption. If that continues, we will consume the same amount of fossil fuels in the next 48 years as we have in the history of mankind. If you can read a graph with two axes, you should know we're whistling past the graveyard. And if your attitude toward that is, "Okay, but I'm going to get mines in the meantime," that's valid, I guess, but then that's the end of the conversation.
Edit: and, yes, I'm all for nukes.
The oil men in episode 3 have the same discussion our two oil men are having here
Lol
Yeah, you're right, wind and solar are miracles that have no trade offs or negative externalities at all unlike everything else in the history of energy. Or economics for that matter.
Counting tax breaks and government spending as the same subsidy is either stupid or dishonest. Which do you fall under?
"Trust the experts" I am an expert, literally, like people pay me lots of money for my actual analysis on things like ROI for energy projects. I'd send you a consulting invoice for my time but you can't afford it. Hth.
Next up will be the "trust the science", I always get a kick out of that one.
Better build nukes yesterday if you believe burning fossil fuels will end the world. Hint: there's a reason politicians pushing this won't just build nukes and buy beachfront property with their kickbacks from "sustainable energy". Total existential crisis.
TITTT
Wind is a fine alternative energy source, but acting like it’s a win from a “carbon footprint” standpoint is retarded. Those things break down before they break even.
I'm much more interested in them from a decentralized application.
The Bigger they get the harder and more complicated it is to get that break even and the engineering gets really wild.
Much easier to get break even on a small scale and the gains from a resilience standpoint vs. Our current failing grid infrastructure.
Have a friend working on a small scale Hydro out of the box company.
I'm gonna need to see some facts and figures on this stuff when I show up in Newport Beach this summer to drink beer.
As long as we can talk shit on Oregon sounds good.
You gotta move to ID, MT or WY before you can shit talk Oree-gone, boss.
Although I'm hearing HBC is getting to be like Nazi Germany these days!
Vanillaaids @YellowSnow
Nonsense, I'm a trooj that lives walking distance to the beach. I can talk all the shit i want.
thanks for the review. I was on the fence… sold.
I was skiing fat pow all weekend with my lil pisses, boss.
Went to my friends place on the water for the annual boat parade party last weekend. Now at Great Wolf Lodge for the week drinking Palomas. Life's TUFF down here in Orange County.