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The up tempo offense works best when you run the ball a lot and doesn't work at all when you throw a bunch of incomplete passes.
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He will mange to call a bunch of plays that result in incomplete passes. Rendering this whole experiment useless.
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That is the probable downside. Incompletions (especially long ones) absolutely kill the tempo.MikeDamone said:He will mange to call a bunch of plays that result in incomplete passes. Rendering this whole experiment useless.
HTH.
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can you run long routes to the sidelines and substitute without a huddle?
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If you substitute, you have to allow the defense to substitute also.brchco12 said:can you run long routes to the sidelines and substitute without a huddle?
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And now our sure-handed and best short pass receiver might be out...
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I don't think Sark's intention is to run the ball a lot. He keeps saying Price was better when they played faster. That implies passing.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sark's switch to the up tempo offense might actually help his playcalling.
The up tempo offense works best when you run the ball a lot and doesn't work at all when you throw a bunch of incomplete passes. -
Are you the same employee you were 5 years ago? I'm not....I'm much better at what I do now.
Perhaps Sark will improve also??
And I still think Chip met with his buddy Sark and showed him the UO offense and how the hurry-up works. We'll see if he was really listening.... -
How different are you from last year? Sark didn't get it coming in and I don't see any evidence that he gets it now. I think he is making changes to his offense because he is floundering and has to show he is trying something.HuskyJW said:Are you the same employee you were 5 years ago? I'm not....I'm much better at what I do now.
Perhaps Sark will improve also??
And I still think Chip met with his buddy Sark and showed him the UO offense and how the hurry-up works. We'll see if he was really listening....
I hope it works.
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The problem is that you can't run up tempo well with incompletions, because they give the defense time to substitute.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
I don't think Sark's intention is to run the ball a lot. He keeps saying Price was better when they played faster. That implies passing.
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Sark is the same coach he was three years ago. Does that count?HuskyJW said:Are you the same employee you were 5 years ago? I'm not....I'm much better at what I do now.
Perhaps Sark will improve also??
And I still think Chip met with his buddy Sark and showed him the UO offense and how the hurry-up works. We'll see if he was really listening.... -
Curl routes to ASJ, screens & slants to John Ross and dumpoffs to Sankey, Callier & Taylor.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The problem is that you can't run up tempo well with incompletions, because they give the defense time to substitute.
If they're going to pass a lot, it's going to be dink and dunk. -
Running play-action out of the shotgun with a soft and battered O-Line is a great scheme as always
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I listened to an interview with Cozzetto, and reading between the lines, it seems like the no huddle is a gimmick because we don't feel confident in lining up and beating the guys in front of us.
Cozzetto said something to the extent that the no huddle will make the defense fatigued and worried about lining up. It seems like a last ditch resort by a coaching staff that knows they have fucked up OL recruiting and their jobs are on the line. I think we will be improved on offense this year, but we aren't going to strike fear in anyone. -
To this point Sark did a better job with the guys he inherited considering they were slightly less talented than what he has now.TierbsHsotBoobs said: -
The theory only works if you can run a bunch of plays in a row with very little rest. You have to keep the ball moving forward AND you have to use all four downs.RoadDawg55 said:I listened to an interview with Cozzetto, and reading between the lines, it seems like the no huddle is a gimmick because we don't feel confident in lining up and beating the guys in front of us.
Cozzetto said something to the extent that the no huddle will make the defense fatigued and worried about lining up. It seems like a last ditch resort by a coaching staff that knows they have fucked up OL recruiting and their jobs are on the line. I think we will be improved on offense this year, but we aren't going to strike fear in anyone. -
I agree. I'm sure our no huddle looks good when we are running it against the #2 DL. Who wouldn't look good playing against a DL of Potoae, Tupou, Finau, Banks, Cree, and true freshmen? Those guys wouldn't get a good pass rush or hold stout against the run against a #1 Big Sky offense.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The theory only works if you can run a bunch of plays in a row with very little rest. You have to keep the ball moving forward AND you have to use all four downs.
When we play a strong DL, our OL will get dominated, and the no huddle will make no difference. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm skeptical. Our bubble screens won't go for 5-10 yards basically every time like they do for Oregon, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia. I have my doubts that Sark will ever have a run heavy offense. If we ran 65-70% of the time, I would feel much better.
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Sark is not afraid to punt.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The theory only works if you can run a bunch of plays in a row with very little rest. You have to keep the ball moving forward AND you have to use all four downs.
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So Sankey will go from having the 3rd most carries in the Pac-12 to #1 or #2?TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sark's switch to the up tempo offense might actually help his playcalling.
The up tempo offense works best when you run the ball a lot and doesn't work at all when you throw a bunch of incomplete passes. -
Sankey is not the team.IMALOSER_ said:
So Sankey will go from having the 3rd most carries in the Pac-12 to #1 or #2?
We were 6th as a team in rushing attempts. When that is coupled with 8th for yards per attempt you end up as 8th for total rushing in the Pac-12. The only quasi-competent team we beat out was OSU. Otherwise it is us with the Utah, Colorado and WSU.... the four stooges... -
Loser won't admit he supports Sark. He just does this bullshitMad_Son said:
Sankey is not the team.
We were 6th as a team in rushing attempts. When that is coupled with 8th for yards per attempt you end up as 8th for total rushing in the Pac-12. The only quasi-competent team we beat out was OSU. Otherwise it is us with the Utah, Colorado and WSU.... the four stooges... -
I know. I was trying to figure out why I post meaningful counter-stats when I know his MO is cherry picking weird stats to support an unjustified point of view. In the end I couldn't figure out why. My best guess is the alcohol.RaceBannon said:
Loser won't admit he supports Sark. He just does this bullshit
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Out of my last 23 poasts I only believed half of what I posted 17% of the time.Mad_Son said:
I know. I was trying to figure out why I post meaningful counter-stats when I know his MO is cherry picking weird stats to support an unjustified point of view. In the end I couldn't figure out why. My best guess is the alcohol.
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I also agree the up-tempo offense may help Sark's play calling.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sark's switch to the up tempo offense might actually help his playcalling.
The up tempo offense works best when you run the ball a lot and doesn't work at all when you throw a bunch of incomplete passes.
He'll have less time to think between plays.
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What did the top 4 rushing schools have in common?
A QB who could run. If you watch KP17 in the bowl game, he could barely walk. Before you back out all the sacks on Hundley (700+), he, Scott, Kelly and Super Mario all had 500+ yards rushing.
When Jake went for 500+ in 2010, we were in the Top 5 in the conference.
And our 38 sacks + countless hurries put us in situations which took the run out of the playbook. Not to mention all of our fucking penalties.
It is not our mix that is the problem, it is our master player caller's inconsistency. If you don't believe me I would advise you to go back to the play by play breakdowns of the AC & Vegas Bowl.
He tried to sit on it 2 drives in a row when Sankey wasn't finding any room in the 4th qtr of the AC. Finally he let KP17 loose on the final drive before the missed FG.
I just don't think he has a very good feel of the game and does a poor job understanding key situations (2nd & 16 = 2yd run by Sankey in AC).
With that said, a healthy KP17 could add a threat to the read/option that will not only help the RBs, it will help with our overall rushing totals.
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I like to arbitrarily quote 2010 statistics while ignoring 2009. I like to do this.IrishDawg22 said:What did the top 4 rushing schools have in common?
A QB who could run. If you watch KP17 in the bowl game, he could barely walk. Before you back out all the sacks on Hundley (700+), he, Scott, Kelly and Super Mario all had 500+ yards rushing.
When Jake went for 500+ in 2010, we were in the Top 5 in the conference.
And our 38 sacks + countless hurries put us in situations which took the run out of the playbook. Not to mention all of our fucking penalties.
It is not our mix that is the problem, it is our master player caller's inconsistency. If you don't believe me I would advise you to go back to the play by play breakdowns of the AC & Vegas Bowl.
He tried to sit on it 2 drives in a row when Sankey wasn't finding any room in the 4th qtr of the AC. Finally he let KP17 loose on the final drive before the missed FG.
I just don't think he has a very good feel of the game and does a poor job understanding key situations (2nd & 16 = 2yd run by Sankey in AC).
With that said, a healthy KP17 could add a threat to the read/option that will not only help the RBs, it will help with our overall rushing totals.
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I like to arbitrarily expect people to post multiple years of statistics.TheKobeStopper said:
I like to arbitrarily quote 2010 statistics while ignoring 2009. I like to do this. -
I like to admit that "Out of my last 23 poasts I only believed half of what I posted 17% of the time" and still expect people to give a crap what I post after that.IMALOSER_ said:
I like to arbitrarily expect people to post multiple years of statistics.
You have less credibility than SugarSteelLamboLicker. At least that guy believes the shit he spews.
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Internet Fucktard talking about credibility on an anonymous message board. That's just fucking classic.HillsboroDuck said:
I like to admit that "Out of my last 23 poasts I only believed half of what I posted 17% of the time" and still expect people to give a crap what I post after that.
You have less credibility than SugarSteelLamboLicker. At least that guy believes the shit he spews. -
Are you that big of a dumb ass, or do you just play one on the internet?TheKobeStopper said:
I like to arbitrarily quote 2010 statistics while ignoring 2009. I like to do this.
So, a good rushing QB has not impact on the team's rushing totals.
Hmmm, better go tell Chip, Rich Rod and even the Great Jimmy Mora.
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Then why was UW's rushing stats not that good in 2009 when Jake was the QB? Why did you leave that year out?IrishDawg22 said:
Are you that big of a dumb ass, or do you just play one on the internet?
So, a good rushing QB has not impact on the team's rushing totals.
Hmmm, better go tell Chip, Rich Rod and even the Great Jimmy Mora.
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