Greatest Yacht Rock Album of All Tim?

YellowSnow · December 5

RaceBannon · December 5

Can't Buy a Thrill Steely Dan, 1972

Never thought of Steely Dan as yacht rock so they win rather easily

The Mcdonald doobies are 2nd

YellowSnow · December 5

Aja Steely Dan, 1977

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/comment/2027334#Comment_2027334

Steely Dan basically invented it, and along with the Mike McDonald Doobies dominate the genre.

People forget Mike was a background singer in Steely Dan before joining the Doobies.

Guacho is probably more Yacht Rock than Can't Buy a Thrill, but I included the latter for historical purposes and for my love of Dirty Work.

RaceBannon · December 5

Can't Buy a Thrill Steely Dan, 1972

I just never thought of them that way because they were before the onslaught

1972 I was at my old high school and they were rock

I can see it now

Going to watch it this weekend

whatshouldicareabout · December 5

Yacht rock (originally known as the West Coast sound[4][5] or adult-oriented rock[6]) is a broad music style and aesthetic[7] commonly associated with soft rock,[8] one of the most commercially successful genres from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s. Drawing on sources such as smooth soul, smooth jazz,[1] R&B, and disco,[7] common stylistic traits include high-quality production, clean vocals, and a focus on light, catchy melodies.[6] The term yacht rock was coined in 2005 by the makers of the online comedy video series Yacht Rock, who connected the music with the popular Southern Californian leisure activity of boating. It was considered a pejorative term by some music critics.[6]
Definition
See also: Soft rock

The term yacht rock did not exist contemporaneously with the music the term describes,[6] which was produced from 1975 to 1984.[7][8] It refers to "adult-oriented rock"[6] or "West Coast Sound",[4][3] which became identified with yacht rock in 2005, when the term was coined in J. D. Ryznar et al.'s online video series of the same name.[9][10][11] Understood as a pejorative term,[6] yacht rock referred, in part, to a stereotypical yuppie yacht owner enjoying smooth music while sailing. Many "yacht rockers" included nautical references in their lyrics, videos, and album artwork, exemplified by Christopher Cross's anthemic track, "Sailing" (1979).[12] Long mocked for "its saccharine sincerity and garish fashion," the original stigma attached to the music has lessened since about 2015.[6][3]

In 2014, AllMusic's Matt Colier identified the "key defining rules of the genre:"

"keep it smooth, even when it grooves, with more emphasis on the melody than on the beat"
"keep the emotions light, even when the sentiment turns sad (as is so often the case in the world of the sensitive yacht-rocksman)"
"always keep it catchy, no matter how modest or deeply buried in the tracklist the tune happens to be"[7]

The "exhilaration of escape" is "essential to yacht," according to journalist and documentary-film maker Katie Puckrik. She quoted the lyrics of Cross's "Ride Like the Wind" (1979), "to make it to the border of Mexico," as an example of the aspirational longing that demonstrates "the power of the genre". Thwarted desire is another key element that counters the "feelgood bounce" of yacht in the same song. Puckrik identified a sub-genre, "dark yacht", exemplified in Joni Mitchell's "accidental yacht rock" song "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" (1975), which described the "tarnished love" of "a woman trapped in a big house and a loveless marriage".[13]

According to Mara Schwartz Kuge, who worked in the L.A. music industry for two decades, "Soft rock was a genre of very popular pop music from the 1970s and early 1980s, characterized by soft, mostly acoustic guitars and slow-to-mid tempos ... most people have generalized the term to mean anything kind of soft-and-1970s-ish, including artists like Rupert Holmes. Not all yacht rock is soft, either: Toto's 'Hold the Line' and Kenny Loggins' 'Footloose' are both very yacht rock but not soft rock."[14]

Comprehensively defining yacht rock remains difficult, despite agreement that its central elements are "aspirational but not luxurious, jaunty but lonely, pained but polished". Journalist Jack Seale stated that, as in other "micro-genres", certain albums of artists who are accepted as proponents are "arbitrarily ruled in or out". For example, Michael Jackson's Thriller (1982) is accepted as yacht rock, but Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1977) is not.[15]
Yacht Rock creators

Yacht Rock web series co-creators Ryznar, Steve Huey, Hunter Stair, and David Lyons have attempted to apply precision to what is defined as yacht rock, and have been critical of overly expansive definitions of the term. In 2016, they invented the term "nyacht rock" to refer to songs that have sometimes been classified as yacht rock but that they felt did not fit the definition.[16][17] On their podcasts Beyond Yacht Rock and Yacht or Nyacht?, they have categorized various songs as being either within or outside of the genre.[18]

Factors that the four list as relevant to yacht rock include:

High production value[18]
Use of "elite"[19] Los Angeles–based studio musicians and producers associated with yacht rock[5]
Jazz and R&B influences[5][18]
Use of electric piano[5]
Complex and wry lyrics[5] about heartbroken, foolish men,[18] particularly involving the word "fool"[5]
An upbeat rhythm called the "Doobie Bounce"[5]

Ryznar and company have argued that many artists sometimes associated with yacht rock, particularly the folk-driven soft rock of Gordon Lightfoot and the Eagles, fall outside the scope of the term as originally conceived.[5] They have also disputed the use of the term as an umbrella for any song whose lyrics include nautical references, opting for the term "marina rock" for bands close to the scene but lacking a few elements, such as Rupert Holmes and Hall & Oates.[5][17] The term's inventors consider Michael McDonald the most influential yacht-rock artist.[20]
Origins

The socio-political and economic changes that contributed to the emergence of the genre[21] have recently been described by journalists like Steven Orlofsky, and by documentary-film maker Katie Puckrik. Orlofsky pointed out that some contemporaneous pop groups such as Fleetwood Mac, Steely Dan, and Supertramp were well-respected by critics and listeners.[22] Yacht rock was art "untouched by the outside world". By contrast to what followed, it "was probably the last major era of pop music wholly separated from the politics of its day".[3] Yacht rock represented an "introspective individualism" that emerged after the death of the "mass-movement idealism" of the 1960s. Its "reassuringly vague escapism" was boosted by the rise of FM radio which brought together two consequences of gender emancipation: women who controlled household spending and men who "felt freer to convey their emotions in song".[15]

The roots of yacht rock can be traced to the music of the Beach Boys, whose aesthetic was the first to be "scavenged" by acts like Rupert Holmes, according to Jacobin's Dan O'Sullivan. Captain & Tennille, who were members of the Beach Boys' live band, won "yacht rock's first Best Record Grammy" in 1975, for "Love Will Keep Us Together", a song that composer Neil Sedaka acknowledged was inspired in part by a Beach Boys riff.[23] O'Sullivan also cites the Beach Boys recording of "Sloop John B" (1966) as the origin of yacht rock's predilection for the "sailors and beachgoers" aesthetic that was "lifted by everyone, from Christopher Cross to Eric Carmen, from 'Buffalo Springfield' folksters like Jim Messina to 'Philly Sound' rockers like Hall & Oates".[24]

Some of the most popular yacht rock acts (who also collaborated on each other's records) included Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, Steely Dan, and Toto.[12][25][26][10]
Resurgence

Recent positive reappraisals of the genre have appeared in The Guardian,[27] The Week,[3] and on BBC Four, which broadcast Puckrik's two-part documentary, I Can Go for That: The Smooth World of Yacht Rock, in June 2019.[15][28] (That documentary is a play on the 1981 Hall & Oates song "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)".)[13]

Orlofsky has argued that the genre's resurgence is partly due to its function as an antidote to the negativity of the post-Obama era in the US just as in its original context, when yacht rock created "the perfect soundtrack for listeners trying to ignore Watergate and Vietnam,"[15] it now again represents "a defiant, fingers-planted-firmly-within-ears disregard of any and all political unrest".[3]

New yacht rock bands such as Young Gun Silver Fox have garnered popularity and media recognition in recent years. Glide magazine describes Young Gun Silver Fox's album AM Waves as having "its brand of 70’s SoCal-infused pop rock" and compares it to the likes of other yacht rock bands such as Ambrosia and the Doobie Brothers.[29] S. Victor Aaron of Something Else! reviews described their Rolling Back album as "another fine example of the neo-yacht rock that YGSF has absolutely mastered".[30] While Something Else! reviews consider Young Gun Silver Fox to fall under the category of "neo-yacht rock", Talia Woodridge of The Spill Magazine classifies Young Gun Silver as a yacht rock band.[31]

Yacht Rock Revue (YRR), founded in 2007 in Atlanta, Georgia, emerged as a significant force in yacht rock's revival, performing both covers[32] and original music[33]. Initially formed by Nicholas Niespodziani and Peter Olson as a weekly event at Atlanta's 10 High club, the band expanded into a ten-piece ensemble that has become the most active touring act in the genre. The group has performed with several original yacht rock artists, including John Oates[34], Eddie Money, and Robbie Dupree, and has opened for major acts like Train, REO Speedwagon[35], and Kenny Loggins[36]. Beyond covers, YRR has released original albums including Hot Dads in Tight Jeans (2020) and Escape Artist (2024), along with a PBS Special[37] recorded at New York's Pier 17. The band has helped popularize yacht rock among new audiences, regularly performing at major venues across the United States and transitioning from clubs to amphitheaters through partnerships with Live Nation and SiriusXM.

In the USA, the resurgence is being led by the seven-piece SoCal band Yachtley Crew, who have toured across the US to sold-out venues[38] and commenced their third year of residency at the Palms Casino Resort, Las Vegas in 2024.[39][40] Yachtley Crew were the first band to be captured live on SiriusXM’s Yacht Rock radio station[41] and have gained the accolade “Titans Of Soft Rock”[42] in the media, being defined as leaders of the cultural phenomenon by the likes of Fox News (“Yachtley Crew brings Yacht Rock back into the mainstream”).[43]
Reception and legacy
Perspectives

A 2012 Jacobin article described yacht rock as "endlessly banal, melodic and inoffensive, fit to be piped into Macy's changing rooms".[44] The article describes the popularity of yacht rock as reflective of a regressive Reagan-era American society and "about the garden of nightmares America had become". According to the Jacobin article, yacht rock served as "an escape from blunt truths" about sociopolitical issues of the day. In an article in The New Inquiry, music scholar J. Temperance stated that yacht rock "sterilized the form of its soul and blues elements and instead emphasized disinterested, intentionally trite lyrical themes".[45] In a uDiscovermusic article, Paul Sexton expressed how yacht rock as a genre seemed to "exude privileged opulence: of days in expensive recording studios followed by hedonistic trips on private yachts".[46] According to writer Max McKenna in a 2018 Popmatters article, the lack of political messaging in the yacht rock genre is a "conservative gesture(s) flying under the radar in a climate of poptimist reappraisal".[47]

In response to the Jacobin article, music scholar J. Temperance wrote in The New Inquiry that, rather than being a reactionary genre, yacht rock was essential to the growth of pop music in a time of "cultural darkness", "serving as a dialectical pole to progressive rock as well as to punk, postpunk and even proto-postpunk, spurring drastic retrenchments".[45] J. Temperance attributed the "smooth" sound that is characteristic of yacht rock to an indifferent approach to capitalist culture and a "regressive tolerance of allegedly transgressive music with a truly liberatory anality" by using existing symbols rather than create new anti-establishment symbols that are eventually added into the establishment symbols. The New Inquiry article describes the role of yacht rock as a genre that would help people differentiate music appreciation from status by using common symbols and "rendering the popular into the smooth".[45]

Yacht rock had also faced racial criticism, given the genre's associations with "the revival of white rock forms" as writer Max McKenna stated in the 2018 Popmatters article.[47] Wesley Morris compares in a New York Times op-ed piece the recognition given to black artists and white artists who possess the "absurd" quality of blackness in their music.[48] Due to its perceived lack of political involvement and borrowed elements from black music genres, yacht rock has garnered the perception of racial ignorance amongst certain critics of the genre.[48] The Jacobin article described Michael McDonald, a musician well known within the genre of yacht rock, as a "bleached, blue-eyed soul cracker".[44]

Yacht rock is listed as a genre on Spotify, Amazon Music, AccuRadio, and Pandora. Since 2015, there has been a "Yacht Rock" channel on Sirius XM Satellite Radio. The channel reverts to the off-season channel after summer,[49] but is available year-round on the SXM app. iHeartRadio also has a dedicated "Yacht Rock Radio" station that airs this format 24/7 on its website and app.[50]

Twenty-first century musicians have formed cover bands centered on the yacht rock idea, such as Yachtley Crew and Yacht Rock Revue, which have done national tours.[51][52] Yacht Rock Revue hosts an annual Yacht Rock Revival concert where they invite members of the original bands they cover to join them on stage for a few songs, including Walter Egan, Robbie Dupree, Peter Beckett (Player), Bobby Kimball (former lead singer of Toto), Jeff Carlisi (.38 Special), Bill Champlin (Chicago), and Denny Laine (Wings).[52]

In 2018, Jawbone Press released The Yacht Rock Book: The Oral History of the Soft, Smooth Sounds of the 70s and 80s by author Greg Prato, which explored the entire history of the genre.[53] The book featured a foreword by Fred Armisen, and interviews with Christopher Cross, Kenny Loggins, and John Oates, among others.[17]
Inspired music

Yacht rock bears strong similarities to the Japanese genre of city pop in that they both peaked in the early 1980s, featured jazz and R&B influences arranged and produced by elites in their fields, and gained newfound popularity in the 2010s through the Internet. The link between city pop and yacht rock was made explicit in 1984 when Tatsuro Yamashita, one of Japan's most influential city pop artists and producers, traveled to California to record the album Big Wave, a mix of Beach Boys covers and original English-language compositions written in collaboration with Alan O'Day.

Elements of yacht rock have been adopted by new acts such as Vampire Weekend, Foxygen, and Carly Rae Jepsen, while the vaporwave genre of electronic music, which began in the 2010s, appropriated the "nautical iconography" of yacht rock.

The 2017 album by Thundercat, Drunk, featured a song that included guest vocalists Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald, entitled "Show You the Way" (all performed the song together on an episode of The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon the same year).

The band Sugar Ray's 2019 album Little Yachty is a conscious homage to yacht rock; it includes a cover of the 1979 Rupert Holmes song "Escape (The Piña Colada Song)", which lead singer Mark McGrath has called "the torch bearer of all things yacht rock".

RaceBannon · December 5

Can't Buy a Thrill Steely Dan, 1972

I hate Rupert Holmes Pina Colada

I also can't turn away when it pops up

Yacht rock was a pejorative

Coming after the hard Rock era

Joey · December 5

Minute by Minute The Doobie Brothers, 1978

I prefer Gaucho over Can’t buy a thrill

Fishpo31 · December 5

Aja Steely Dan, 1977

I was on the Steely Dan bandwagon from the beginning (at age 12), and Aja is on my Mount Rushmore of great albums. I am more than a bit snobby with music, and was long ambivalent to the majority of Yacht Rock. The thru-line of so much of it is Michael McDonald, and he convinced me it was Ok to like it, in about 1980, with this…

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