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2024/2025 UW Scholarship Roster - As of 11/10/24

TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

I'm going to dig into each group in additional detail, but the attached image is what (by my math/count) UW's roster looks like for 2024 and what it looks like for 2025 with the current roster, the recruiting class as it currently stands today (no Ploog), and no assumptions with respect to the portal (either in or out).

What stands out very quickly when you look at this is as follows:

  • UW is not playing with a full deck this year being under the 85 man scholarship limit
  • As the roster currently stands next year it's going to be incredibly young (over 2/3 of the roster being freshmen and sophomores) and it highlights the gaps in recruiting from the Lake/DeBoer era (only 28 combined upper class players)
  • Within the positional groups there are still some very clear and obvious gaps going into next year that will have to be addressed in the portal

I'm not presenting this, or going through this analysis, as a means of making excusing Fisch. Instead, the point of this is to highlight where the roster is at today, what it is going to look like heading into the offseason, and what realistically is on the table heading into the offseason.

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  • Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,179

    So for next year across the five classes we are basically at 20% each year with a weighing towards the younger classes which given attrition will occur doesn't seem odd and should be correctable with transfers.

    QB is rough because while I have confidence in sophomore Demond, RsFr are a liability. OL is too light in the upper years as is LB. That is a finite set of issues which can be targeted.

    Age isn't our problem.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    The state of the defense heading into next year actually isn't that bad and there's reason for optimism that some of the positives from this year should be able to be carried forward into 2025 and beyond.

    Defensive Tackle (11)

    Senior: Deshawn Lynch, Bryce Butler, Logan Sagapolu

    Junior: Jayvon Parker, Armon Parker, Russell Davis

    Sophomore: Elinneus Davis

    Freshman: Annas Davis, Omar Khan, Dominic Mason, Caleb Smith

    Graduated: Sebastian Valdez, Jacob Bandes

    The good news heading into next year is that you have a lot of upper classmen and you have numbers. The bad news is that you don't necessarily have anybody that would be qualified as a difference maker. Parker's injury this year in Game 4 allowed for a redshirt but also likely puts some limitations on him for next year (particularly early) as an Achilles injury is one that is normally a 1 year recovery to get back on the field but a 2 year recovery to be back to pre-injury levels. I don't necessarily see much portal activity here given the numbers but if there are some guys that leave the program that could open up some room to upgrade the talent level.

    EDGE (8)

    Senior: Zach Durfee, Maurice Heims

    Junior: Lance Holtzclaw, Jayden Wayne, Jacob Lane, Isaiah Ward

    Freshman: Devin Hyde, Victor Sanchez Hernandez

    Graduated: Voi Tunuufi

    This is a position group that on one hand could be one of our most talented but is also one where there have been some struggles in terms of injuries and players necessarily taking the ball and running with it to demand consistent snaps (Ward's probably the closest to it). Heims seems like a candidate to not be on the roster next year. There's effectively nothing on the roster for 2 classes and there's a definitely need at some point in the future for that void to be filled. How this position develops in the offseason will be a leading indicator for the defense next year … very easily could be our best position group on that side of the ball.

    Linebacker (5)

    Sophomore: Khmori House, Deven Bryant

    Freshman: Zaydrius Rainey-Sale, Jonathan Epperson, Donovan Robinson

    Graduated: Alphonzo Tuputala, Carson Bruener, Drew Fowler

    How there isn't a single upper class LB on this roster going into next year is absolutely criminal and is a massive indictment of the recruiting under Lake and DeBoer. It's almost a guarantee that at least 1, if not more, of the true frosh LBs will be playing next year. There's probably room for at least 2 LBs to come in via the portal with 1 having a year of eligibility and 1 having multiple years of eligibility. One byproduct of this depth as part of next year's roster and the need to build out here is tied to special teams … an area that UW must get better at in the offseason.

    Cornerback (10)

    Senior: Ephesians Prysock, Elijah Jackson, Dyson McCutcheon

    Sophomore: Leroy Bryant, Caleb Presley, Jordan Shaw, Curley Reed

    Freshman: Elias Johnson, D'Aryihan Clemons, Ramonz Adams

    Graduated: Thaddeus Dixon

    The pass defense has been the strength of the defense this season and even with Dixon graduating, there's still plenty of returning talent/production provided everybody returns. We have another instance of an entire missing class with the Junior class meaning that heading into 2026 there's going to be a decent amount of opportunity for the younger players on the roster to get snaps and play with Shaw who has flashed this year. This is another area where as the young players grow it should have a trickle down impact onto special teams. It would not shock me if there's someone in this group that transfers out.

    Safety (10)

    Junior: Tristan Dunn

    Sophomore: Peyton Waters, Vincent Holmes

    Freshman: Rahim Wright, Rahshawn Clark, Paul Mencke, Jr., Dylan Robinson, Rylon Dillard-Allen, Deji Ajose

    Graduated: Kamren Fabriculanan, Cameron Broussard, Justin Harrington

    This is probably the most unknown part of the defense entering next year with the most questions. Holmes has played some this year and is probably a leading option to start next year. Waters was highly regarded out of HS and Dunn has mostly been a special teams player throughout his career. The rest of the roster is full of freshmen … some of whom are very highly regarded. The big question that will need to be answered going into the offseason is whether there is enough talent and if they are ready to play next year. My guess is they may look to get an experienced player to come in and QB the secondary next year but it's not a given.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    I think the problem when you look at the composition of our roster is that when you look at the players returning in the upper classes there are a number of guys there that probably just qualify as JAGs. Those that are difference makers will have options whether the NFL or the portal. There's also a few in the upper classes that are definitely guys that could get pushed out of the program because we're already going to be pushing it on our roster size as is.

    The other thing that stands out as you go through the roster is that there are position groups that have 1-2 year voids of any talent. It makes it a situation where the roster constantly feels imbalanced and uneven.

    I'm really not sure what to think of the QB position and how to get around that next year. I find it hard to imagine that we'd be able to bring in anybody with decent experience/skill knowing that Demond is going to win the job. We do have a walk-on QB that you could maybe argue could cover in a pinch … but it's not great. Being the starter at Mater Dei would make me think that Dash may be closer to being passable than one would think. The challenge is that he's probably more of a dual guy at this point versus a passer so it's a complete crap shoot. I'm not saying this to excuse Fisch but the QB position is just a giant risk next year … there's no way around it.

    You're right in your callouts on the other obvious gaps in the roster … they can be worked around. What I'm getting at here is that you have a lot of youth on the roster that has yet to really see much of the field (or will be incoming freshmen) and because of those numbers there really isn't a lot of room to overhaul this roster with players from the portal other than at very pointed and select spots. Where you're going to see the effects of the portal is most likely after next season as the youth plays itself out a bit and those that have been passed look for other opportunities while another full recruiting class is signed. There's no way that we're going to sign 15 next year … it will be in the 20-25 range again.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    As for the specialists …

    We've got commitments in this class from a long snapper (who supposedly can also play tight end) as well as punter/kicker.

    I'm not really sure what you do with Grady Gross … at minimum he's competing for the job next year. There's no question that this year has not been good enough at this level.

    The punt game isn't good enough … full stop.

  • dtddtd Member Posts: 4,799 Standard Supporter

    So many warm bodies!

  • Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,179

    I agree - it is separate from age as an issue, but DL in particular stands out as upperclassmen jags. (

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,836 Founders Club

    Cliff notes

    2026 will be special and then UW won't be able to keep Fisch because Jimmy Sexton

  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,878 Standard Supporter

    Good stuff. Russell Davis III is an Edge (listed at 6'3" 217 lbs on Go Huskies).

    I see the staff prioritizing quality over quantity in the portal and specifically at DT and LB. It is very helpful that this staff will have the winter portal period to nab upperclassmen at those spots. Maybe WR and OL too and RB if Coleman leaves.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    I took all the positions from how they were listed on the website and recruits placed in positions based on where they are listed for 247 (Athletes I dug a bit to find their most likely home). As with anything … things can change.

    What is important to remember for next year is that the roster is already effectively at (or over) 85 so anything with the portal will be a player out = a player in.

    There are obvious areas where we could use depth and some upgrades … there’s also areas where trying to figure out who would leave is less clear given some of the class stacking where youth needs to separate themselves

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    I’m saying 2025 is a growth/development year based on the roster and how it’s constructed

    You’re more than capable of saying what you’d do with the roster to accelerate the process … but we all know it’s easier to be snarky and bitch

    UW has its own issues with respect to $$$ to stabilize with the Big10 transition … but obviously the $$$ is the obvious reason for that move. Without it UW would 100% become a stepping stone school

  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,601 Swaye's Wigwam

    Appreciate this. One of the disappointing things with the new form of college football to me is how much harder it is to project future seasons given you don't know how is leaving your team and who is coming in via the portal and it's the same for your opponents.

    Do you think Fisch can talk a donor or two into spending a lot in the winter portal this year? I like and believe in the building from high school model but this year is showing (and not just at UW) it's going to be hard not to bottom out or stay up top if you're not spending a ton in the portal. I'm not optimistic, especially since programs like Oregon, Ohio State and Texas will have to be rebuilding a ton in the portal. Maybe not having to spend money on a starting QB will help.

    With the bloated super conferences schedule and how teams shape up will make a difference too. It's hard to read too much yet but I feel like the schedule is more friendly next year and could give us another win or two above what me might be with a tougher schedule.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,836 Founders Club

    It's like 2007 around here

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    The biggest thing I see is that we’re already pushing up against 85 so trying to figure out how much comes in is based on understanding how much goes out the door

    We’ll still be paying our roster it’s just a question of how much and then the price tag will obviously go up for younger players as they produce

    It’s too early to me to try to compare if next year’s schedule is easier or more difficult … by default it will be easier. That said the home schedule will be more difficult.

    My expectations for next year will be growth throughout the year and similar to 2015 the team getting more results as the season progresses.

    I don’t look at what we are doing as bottoming out as much as I look at it as resetting the program and covering for roughly 3 years of recruiting that is largely non-existent

  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,601 Swaye's Wigwam

    I think the positive could be bottoming out this time meant going 6-6 or 5-7 where in the darkest days of the program, bottoming out meant winning 0-2 games. We could have been Florida State and thankfully are not.

    Demond is a big catalyst either way too. He's clearly going to be the guy the next 1-3 years and speshul QBs are not easy to find. It will also be interesting to see how QB play goes nationally as the bs covid year goes away and there are less veterans out on the market.

  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,878 Standard Supporter

    A very good starting QB in these still Wild West times will probably run you $1 million to $1.5 million. To your point, with Demond Williams in the fold, UW could allocate most of that cash to portal players and get 1 good DL and 1 good LB with that, maybe another good player too.

    As for the scholarships, there will be one or two players who a RS-JRs this year who probably won't have their scholarships renewed. Ryan Otton may also decide to medically retire since he just can't get healthy.

    So my guess is that at least 2 or 3 scholarships free up from normal attrition.

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877
    edited November 11

    I would bet on 5-8 guys leaving for 1 reason or another

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,877

    Also realized that Makell Esteen should also be on the list for Safeties as a Senior

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