This isn't about comparing whether or not Fisch is a better coach than DeBoer. And we all seem to be in agreement that UW would be in far better place in 2024 is DeBoer had stayed- i.e., we're 6-1 or 7-0 most likely.
The issue I'm taking with some of my pals here, is that that I don't find the arguments that UW massively screwed the pooch on keeping DeBoer very compelling. I'm not seeing evidence to support the claim that UW has bottomless supply of "monopoly money" to out bid Bamma, or that DeBoer really wanted to stay and Washington and it was just about money (as opposed to career advancement to the most prestigious job in the land).
The chirping about DeBoer going 5-2 with that roster is just to point out that the man may not be infallible after all. Race is correct in saying DeBoer going 5-2 with Bamma's roster doesn't mean he wouldn't be 7-0 at UW right now.
So then our real question now is how was UW able to pay a market leading salary in 1999 to hire Rick and then give him a raise at the end of the 2000 season, but by 2003 was "it's hard" with Gilby and then thought Ty was ok. What the fuck made us change, because we're still that way and it's why we couldn't keep DeBoer.
UW isnt poor. UW is top 25 in pretty much everything AD revenue related, and in NIL.
Grubb was making 2 million as the fucking OC.
UW does seem content at the #20 or so range, but will get a big bump when full rev share kicks in. UW was #23 (ahead of Oregon) despite dog shit pac 12 revenue distribution
The question is, does UW have equivalent resources to the team that won 8 fucking titles in 15 years. And the answer to that is "no"
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This isn't about comparing whether or not Fisch is a better coach than DeBoer. And we all seem to be in agreement that UW would be in far better place in 2024 is DeBoer had stayed- i.e., we're 6-1 or 7-0 most likely.
The issue I'm taking with some of my pals here, is that that I don't find the arguments that UW massively screwed the pooch on keeping DeBoer very compelling. I'm not seeing evidence to support the claim that UW has bottomless supply of "monopoly money" to out bid Bamma, or that DeBoer really wanted to stay and Washington and it was just about money (as opposed to career advancement to the most prestigious job in the land).
The chirping about DeBoer going 5-2 with that roster is just to point out that the man may not be infallible after all. Race is correct in saying DeBoer going 5-2 with Bamma's roster doesn't mean he wouldn't be 7-0 at UW right now.
Infallible? Jfc he's the 2nd or 3rd best coach in school history
You keep him. And when UW screws the pooch as usual you let them hear it not excuse it
There is no way Fisch is close to as good
That's the cope
Last time DeBoer dropped two tough road games early to teams he should have beat he rallied the trewps and won 21 straight. Can he do it again?
Also, wasn't there people saying Norvell turned down the Bama job? What move, if true.
This represents my feelings well. Nicely put
DeBoer has multiple 14 and 15 win seasons with playoff wins. It's a different mindset than we have to go 12-0 to make it
It's more NFL and unlike Fisch, DeBoer has been there
I'm not saying I disagree, but for the sake of argument where would you have put Rick after his second year?
I agreed with babs when she gave him a raise and kept. She was still able to fire him
Norvell was their first choice.
I'm old enough remember back in the late 90s, you could pay a coach $1 million and they were the highest paid dude in the all the sport.
Also, Babs, fucked with our plans since you and I were gonna fire Rick for going 8-4 in 2003.
Wait, DeBoer coached in the NFL? I thought that was UWs greasy recruiter head coach that did that.
You're familiar with the concept of an analogy
DeBoer has multiple 14 or 15 game seasons with a playoff
Thats where college ball is now LIKE the NFL
Just sayin, don’t twist.
bring him back on a discount.
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So then our real question now is how was UW able to pay a market leading salary in 1999 to hire Rick and then give him a raise at the end of the 2000 season, but by 2003 was "it's hard" with Gilby and then thought Ty was ok. What the fuck made us change, because we're still that way and it's why we couldn't keep DeBoer.
So did we hire him back yet?
Kind of my point too. How come UW is poor when everyone is rich?
It's the administration
UW isnt poor. UW is top 25 in pretty much everything AD revenue related, and in NIL.
Grubb was making 2 million as the fucking OC.
UW does seem content at the #20 or so range, but will get a big bump when full rev share kicks in. UW was #23 (ahead of Oregon) despite dog shit pac 12 revenue distribution
The question is, does UW have equivalent resources to the team that won 8 fucking titles in 15 years. And the answer to that is "no"
They didn't need equivalent
They just needed to step up. Spend money to make money
Barely visited in the last 5 years after seeing a shit ton of doog posts back in 2019.
Resident doogs in full force yet again.
deboer was heading to Alabama, why even bother offering more than $9m a year.
We can't compete with blue bloods, why even bother fielding a team.
Continue with moral victories, doogman lite.